Ryzom

tylarth wrote:i stand against GvG as a trend. simply as it excludes others from the OP content, which is not a frequent thing as it is. OP battle are the only real incentive to have meaning to all the lvls and the only real avenue of faction related meaningful battles. the current system encourages alliances and multi guild cooperation and diplomacy, GvG would reverse this trend.

*cough* huge overwhelming alliances exclude people from OP content...

aardnebb wrote:*cough* huge overwhelming alliances exclude people from OP content...

unless your part of that alliance

No fvf allows everyone to access the OP content, in so far as everyone can join in at battles.

GvG would prevent this.

rundll32 wrote:No fvf allows everyone to access the OP content, in so far as everyone can join in at battles.
GvG would prevent this.

It's the opposite, GvG allows any guild ,however small, to try his luck.

vladww wrote:It's the opposite, GvG allows any guild ,however small, to try his luck.

Your both right in your own respects, run has a greater argument though, because anyone can fight for any side.

vladww wrote:It's the opposite, GvG allows any guild ,however small, to try his luck.

<-- that doesnt make any sense, fvf allows any HOMIN however small, to try his luck.

GvG would turn into elitest teams of lvl 250 duking it out, effectively excluding even more people from op content.

rundll32 wrote:<-- that doesnt make any sense, fvf allows any HOMIN however small, to try his luck.

GvG would turn into elitest teams of lvl 250 duking it out, effectively excluding even more people from op content.

Not quite.
I believe the difference they're talking about is...

FvF allows anyone to be a small part of someone else's battle.
GvG allows anyone to have a crack at it being THEIR battle.

People already are excluded from the content, they're just not excluded from the battle - assuming they want to take part in that.

kayak wrote:unless your part of that alliance

which brings us back to the point that one must follow someone else's political agenda to participate. Round and round we go. /sigh

*edit* - additional thoughts:

It would be beneficial for the community as a whole for the OP system to move towards GvG with a failsafe to prevent the elitism which some are afraid of now. It would be nice for a Guild to have the opportunity to take an OP without needing to rally to someone else's battle flag.

Guild vs. Guild is advertised as a feature of Ryzom. If OP's are going to be strictly controlled by faction dominated alliance politics... where's the GvG?

rothimar wrote:which brings us back to the point that one must follow someone else's political agenda to participate. Round and round we go. /sigh

participate no, win yes

rothimar wrote:which brings us back to the point that one must follow someone else's political agenda to participate. Round and round we go. /sigh

That's not true at all. Another server is dominated by a mixed faction alliance, and alliances on our own server corss faction lines, and include neutrals, in various places.