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Re: LA challenge

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 12:00 am
by putterix
i had 94 all stats in precraft.

btw, muncham eyes grind is harder.

And take a look, this is 111 on all 8 bonuses :D

Re: LA challenge

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 12:05 am
by iphdrunk
putterix wrote:i had 94 all stats in precraft.

btw, muncham eyes grind is harder.
And take a look, this is 111 on all 8 bonuses :D

I know... I was just suggesting that with muncham eyes it shuld be theorically possible to get 120 ele dmg.

sooooo we have (of course, if I am not wrong -- just guessing, since you said you would craft 20 amps.. that's a pretty high number of kittin larva):

- A Rubbarn gum so you can craft the Rubbarn-Foo Melee weapon tool, according to the Outpost thread, Ginti Workshop - q250 Melinoe (Rubbarn gum, Dexterity)

- Several OP amp crafting mats from our friends in Trykerlands,


EDIT: fixed, Kitin Larva all the way :D , * good good, bows *

- Grind until the tool dings the boost,

- Getting rich in the bazaar with auctions for 111%, priceless.


Nicely done,

Re: LA challenge

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 12:25 am
by putterix
[QUOTE=iphdrunk]I know... I was just suggesting that with muncham eyes it shuld be theorically possible to get 120 ele dmg.

116 is highest possible stat from ordnary 100/100

Re: LA challenge

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 12:29 am
by iphdrunk
putterix wrote:I know... I was just suggesting that with muncham eyes it shuld be theorically possible to get 120 ele dmg.

116 is highest possible stat from ordnary 100/100

thanks :) that solves the doubt we had on how the boost was applied. got it now, ty

Re: LA challenge

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 12:40 am
by johntf
Speed on amps isnt that important really, I do still want 97, 97 but the drop to say 70 ish speed isnt much.

Re: LA challenge

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 1:16 am
by turjake
johntf wrote:Speed on amps isnt that important really, I do still want 97, 97 but the drop to say 70 ish speed isnt much.

I beg to disagree, there is real difference with even 97 and 100 speed amps, especially in casting doubles in hairy hunt situations. I've noticed that I had my pair of 97's on when I couldn't throw off an emergency heal in time I knew I should have been able to make it.

Of course it's matter of playstyle and whatever - and for me in healing speed is desired

Re: LA challenge

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 2:52 am
by brithlem
turjake wrote:I beg to disagree, there is real difference with even 97 and 100 speed amps, especially in casting doubles in hairy hunt situations. I've noticed that I had my pair of 97's on when I couldn't throw off an emergency heal in time I knew I should have been able to make it.[/img]
Agreed there.... tested it with duels before.... one elem in 97/97 the other in 100/100. By the third cast the 97/97 was far enough behind that it couldn't win the duel.

Re: LA challenge

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 9:03 am
by putterix
brithlem wrote:Just a minor point to add here....

Pre and post craft stats do vary by the following formula:

Postcraft = ((Precraft * .8) +20)

So.... we all (for the most part) use 97/97 zun amps.... the precraft stat of which is 96..... 96*.8 = 76.8 (rounds to 77) + 20 = 97. The amps we've grown to love.

Well.....

96 + 20 (mythical 20% bonus) = 116

116 * .8 = 92.8 + 20 (the pre / post craft adjustment) = 112.8 ... or (approximately)... the stats on these amps.

So... there's always that to consider.

Or.... we could always just call someone we don't know and have never spoken one word to a liar.

My 2 cents on amp crafting,


Yes, i tried it out now

Postcraft = Precraft +20 x 0.8 +20

so u get a 97/97 amp out of excel zun now

Re: LA challenge

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 9:06 am
by alibasil
In fairness though im sure that for your general levelling a pair of excellent Sha amps would do the trick!

I was going to say choice but i know that nobody would want em.

lol -EDIT- just remembered excellent Sha is 100% cast speed. (well ill keep the same example but switching power and speed with mob mats)

lol - 2nd EDIT- this is getting a little sidetracked right? i coulda sworn we were chatting about LA?

Re: LA challenge

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 9:11 am
by iphdrunk
putterix wrote:Yes, i tried it out now

Postcraft = Precraft +20 x 0.8 +20

so u get a 97/97 amp out of excel zun now

Actually.... I was thinking where did we get the idea of the 20% boost? the only thing the tool says, if I remeber correctly, is that it increases the class of the object, giving us a bit more insight on how the classes are defined, maybe there is this "fixed 20" factor somewhere?

Ah, the wicked world of crafting....

ps. pre*0.8 * 20 actually, just a minor detail

Edit: Ali, you're soo right :*) but
a) can't blame us teh players for wanting teh uber itams, or teh crafters for teh fun of it
b) funny how threads can go offtopic... it all started with "hey, what if we did this about amps2? "oh, been done", 2how"? can we split the thread in two? :D