Re: PR Digger Saved!
Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 4:13 pm
That's the crux of the whole conflict!vinnyq wrote:You guys have a different of opinions, stop being mean to each others and leave each others alone already (x3).
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Re: PR Digger Saved!
Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 4:34 pm
*kicks the crux out from under grim's feet*
I don't think you can ever resolve this conflict. It's sorta like the argument on gun control .... but ... LET'S NOT GO THERE.
*follows Infinity's advice*
LESS WORDS MORE ACTIONS!
*runs around*
take action!
*put the whole forum on ignore*
I don't think you can ever resolve this conflict. It's sorta like the argument on gun control .... but ... LET'S NOT GO THERE.
*follows Infinity's advice*
LESS WORDS MORE ACTIONS!
*runs around*
take action!
*put the whole forum on ignore*
Re: PR Digger Saved!
Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 5:12 pm
Unfortunately i do understand both sides very well. It makes me sad. One thing we all have in common is, that we all log on to do someting on Atys.
Probably we should play together once in a while ? How about a roleplay event in PR ? Some story with a lot of fighting (PvP) but also aligned with the lore and the current soryline.
The PvP players have the duty to try their best to to a little RP and the RP players have the duty to deliver a good fight. Probably everyone could learn something new out of this.
Psylo hunted with members of many guilds. Some members from Infinity i do remember for sure. They where very pragmatic people. For sure not easy to defeat in an RP event with PvP content. Quite a challange. Probably i should join them while event
Probably we should play together once in a while ? How about a roleplay event in PR ? Some story with a lot of fighting (PvP) but also aligned with the lore and the current soryline.
The PvP players have the duty to try their best to to a little RP and the RP players have the duty to deliver a good fight. Probably everyone could learn something new out of this.
Psylo hunted with members of many guilds. Some members from Infinity i do remember for sure. They where very pragmatic people. For sure not easy to defeat in an RP event with PvP content. Quite a challange. Probably i should join them while event
Re: PR Digger Saved!
Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 7:11 pm
lol, this is hilarious, Keoni trying to be all innocent, i was in PR once with infinity going fo sup's, yeah we done some killing, but after the Sup sources were got, the killin stopped, however, there were still things to kill like Popping Vorax's, I saw one close to myself & Keoni, ( who yes i had killed earlier, but no longer wanted to kill ) so i do what i do, i started to Nuke the Vorax, but KEONI saw this as a great oppertunity to hit me with a Nuke & then port out, yeah i died by the vorax & if it wasnt for Infinity rezzin me, i would have gained DP.
So.. my message to you is... KEONI is as dirty as they come, as far as i was concerned, PvP was over, i tried to do a favour & kill vorax as it was closer to Keoni than it was to me, but Keoni saw an opertunity not to kill me, but make sure i die & i get DP.
I wont make that mistake again.
ps, before anyone brings up " hey Posmo didnt you hate Infinity? "
my answer is yes, as they hated me, but after myself & Brithlem talked about things that happened between us, i realised Infinity are all about having fun, its what they do best & power to em.
So.. my message to you is... KEONI is as dirty as they come, as far as i was concerned, PvP was over, i tried to do a favour & kill vorax as it was closer to Keoni than it was to me, but Keoni saw an opertunity not to kill me, but make sure i die & i get DP.
I wont make that mistake again.
ps, before anyone brings up " hey Posmo didnt you hate Infinity? "
my answer is yes, as they hated me, but after myself & Brithlem talked about things that happened between us, i realised Infinity are all about having fun, its what they do best & power to em.
Re: PR Digger Saved!
Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 7:54 pm
so let me get this straight. u were in pr, you killed Keoni presumably with the help of your friends. later she kills you with the help of a vorax. Sounds like a good tactic to me, whats ur problem?omsop wrote:lol, this is hilarious, Keoni trying to be all innocent, i was in PR once with infinity going fo sup's, yeah we done some killing, but after the Sup sources were got, the killin stopped, however, there were still things to kill like Popping Vorax's, I saw one close to myself & Keoni, ( who yes i had killed earlier, but no longer wanted to kill ) so i do what i do, i started to Nuke the Vorax, but KEONI saw this as a great oppertunity to hit me with a Nuke & then port out, yeah i died by the vorax & if it wasnt for Infinity rezzin me, i would have gained DP.
So.. my message to you is... KEONI is as dirty as they come, as far as i was concerned, PvP was over, i tried to do a favour & kill vorax as it was closer to Keoni than it was to me, but Keoni saw an opertunity not to kill me, but make sure i die & i get DP.
I wont make that mistake again.
ps, before anyone brings up " hey Posmo didnt you hate Infinity? "
my answer is yes, as they hated me, but after myself & Brithlem talked about things that happened between us, i realised Infinity are all about having fun, its what they do best & power to em.
Re: PR Digger Saved!
Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 8:05 pm
That's an interesting story, except for the little niggling detail that it never happened.omsop wrote:lol, this is hilarious, Keoni trying to be all innocent, i was in PR once with infinity going fo sup's, yeah we done some killing, but after the Sup sources were got, the killin stopped, however, there were still things to kill like Popping Vorax's, I saw one close to myself & Keoni, ( who yes i had killed earlier, but no longer wanted to kill ) so i do what i do, i started to Nuke the Vorax, but KEONI saw this as a great oppertunity to hit me with a Nuke & then port out, yeah i died by the vorax & if it wasnt for Infinity rezzin me, i would have gained DP.
Re: PR Digger Saved!
Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 8:13 pm
Even so, I think that would be justifiable revenge in any case after being killed repeatedly, people tend to get... annoyed.keoni wrote:That's an interesting story, except for the little niggling detail that it never happened.
Re: PR Digger Saved!
Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 8:41 pm
Did you just make this up? I believe that Caitiff asked for an ACTUAL instance where this occurred, not some story you made up. Do you have any screenies or other posts? Because this is just a disgrace to YOU. It's not an example of what you intended, but a verbal gank no different than one in-game that you say occurs every 5 seconds. Get some facts, or stop. Just stop. This (as many have said) is a DISSCUSSION forum, not an "I like to hear my own voice and stir up trouble" forum. And before you verbally gank me, I would like you to to remember that I have only created things like this as a joke to lighten things up or actually DISCUSSED things with others, no matter how heated my tone.grimjim wrote:Jyudas: Bandit! I have returned with friends to destroy you.
PeeKay: bandit? d00d, wtf?!? bandits are mobs!
Jyudas: You slew me out of hand, despite the fact I am kami like you and was trying to protect harvesters from the kitin here.
PeeKay: OMGWTF? LOL! PvP Zone n00b! you come here we kill you
Jyudas: Murdering bandits, die!
Peekay: WTFever! Cool a battle!
*PeeKay's friends show up annihilating the anti PvP crew while shouting things like 'pwned' and 'n00b' until finally the anti-PvP crew get bored with endless rezzes and respawns and leave*
Jyudas: OOC: Well that was a waste of time and just gave them what they wanted. They don't understand how they look to anyone else who plays and fighting them just gave them a good fight.
Meanwhile...
PeeKay: D00D! That was teh awesome! Lets kill more people so they get pissed off at us again! LOL!
Short version...
Its pointless. You can try to rationalise their actions using RP but it only takes you so far.
--Lil
Re: PR Digger Saved!
Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 8:45 pm
While I understand where you're coming from on this, I think to a large degree it's a misperception that the might-makes-right guilds are going out of their way to make us believe. Yet, if they really considered it so great to just have a good war, they would be fighting one amongst themselves.grimjim wrote:Organising any sort of armed response to the people ganking and killing willy-nilly in the PR only provides PKers with what they're after, rewarding bad behaviour.
But they don't. They fight against people who they believe either won't fight back, or won't fight back effectively. They don't give any clear answers to direct questions about who they are warring with, with the intent (I believe) to muddy the waters of public opinion. When people disagree with their tactics, they try to ridicule them as 'whiners' - in other words, if you don't like their actions, they want you to sit down and shut up. Their entire public response seems intended to divide those who might otherwise oppose them, so that they might conquer.
The unfortunate truth is, as I see it: you can't defeat someone with that sort of belief system by turning the other cheek. They don't want to fight for the sake of fighting, they want to fight and win - whether that "win" be a pointless kill of a digger in PR, or the lion's share of a supreme zun supernode. If they start to find themselves on the losing end of these conflicts, they will lose their stomach for the fight.
They are right about one thing - if those who are opposed to their ways only discuss things, without taking action... then they will never have any reason to change. The overall tone of the user community will change in their direction, over time.
If you don't want that to happen, I believe you have to fight for it.
Re: PR Digger Saved!
Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2005 8:46 pm
No, you'll find he asked, basically 'Why can't you just deal with this with RP?'.lillaryn wrote:Did you just make this up? I believe that Caitiff asked for an ACTUAL instance where this occurred, not some story you made up.
That's why.
Because one set of people are acting with OOC motivations and no regard for the world and people in it. They're playing the 'Game' not playing the 'role'.
That was an example of why you can't.
The rest of your reply in the light of that is irrelevent.
Also regarding your comment on screenies etc I also answered that earlier.