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ilthor wrote:Oh yes, and i only harvest lake and some forest (lowbie)... Not for blue dots ofc, but for that darn kincher on the fount koorin spot

Bottom line, PR is INTENTIONALLY a pvp area. Who goes there must expect to possibly be taken down, more even if that person has "enemies". I for one wouldnt expect anything else than that from some "nice people" (> lol stupid joke).

P.S. - besides this is peanuts, what i liked seeing the other day was a CO guy deliberatly pulling kinchers to the meks on fount... that was nice yes.

Edit - a lot of edits lol, seems i can't keep my mouth shut...

I understand that aggro pulling is a bad thing but it's also a very different issue. Aggro pulling is a matter for the GMs as it's outlawed by the game, not by homins. If you see someone pulling aggro, get some screenies.

vaquero1 wrote:Is that not basicly what I said. Althought i never said anything bout being the 'funny one" or whatever. I mean come on PVP and rounding up a posse for the hunt afterwords come hand in hand. If you dig in the roots in a PVP zone you may wanna have some peeps on standby just in case.

I dig in PVP zones. If someone killed me. I would 4 sure call my boys down for the hunt. All I am saying is dont go crying that it is a problem with the person casue he killed you in a PVP zone. Get your boys and fight back.

Invul melee aura and magic aura are there for a reason.....so you dont get spooked.

Sorry if I misunderstood. Exactly what I was getting at. Many apologies. Though I don't expect groups of people to be on standby, I am thinking of getting together with some people to create a task force for just this sort of matter.

muffty wrote:YES sasa but flora hasnt mentioned that .....

If that is true (personal conflict), Flora have no rights to call on arms here against Savior and specialy AoA. She need to settle that with him in-game, not here. 8 forum pages for nothing.

liam29 wrote:C U Next Tuesday! You better pray i never catch u in a pvp area, i will show you the meaning of playing devil's advocate.

Did you read the link? Doesn't look like you did, so here is the definition:

Devil's advocate; One who argues against a cause or position, not as a committed opponent but simply for the sake of argument or to determine the validity of the cause or position.

Anyway, as I have stated elsewhere on the site, and again now just to be clear about it.
I am against PvP and didn't like it becomeing available in Sor, I find no enjoyment at all in killing other players.
Furthermore I try to help players in and outside the game as far as I can.

I do go around in PvP areas. I accept that I can be killed and I know I won't like it.
Yet I have never been attacked or attacked anybody, not once. Not even when two factions were battleing in PR and I stopped by to look.

My best combat related skill is healing, which should tell a lot about what I prefer to do in a battle.
And I presume why nobody is treathen by my presence in PvP areas.

If you still have a desire to kill me in PvP, post your name in this thread and we can sort out a meeting ingame for as many rounds of PvP as you like.
I will promise the actions during the PvP will be what I would do if I ever was in a involuntary PvP*1.
Hopefully that will satisfy your lust to kill me on sight.

*1 For those of you who haven't figure it out, I will just die.

vaquero1 wrote:Its PVP................WHAT IS WRONG WITH EVERYONE......IF YOU DONT WANNA GET KILLED DONT GO IN THE ROOTS WHERE PVP IS ALLOWED!


U cry about gettin killed in the roots where it is kill or be killed. GET OVER IT. ITs PVP thats part of it rolling up on peeps and killing em for the fudge of it.

Lets just blacklist everyone that wants pvp that will make the game better........NOT.

You peace love and soul chumps are going to be the downfall of the game.

You speak alot of truth there Zen

muffty wrote:YES sasa but flora hasnt mentioned that .....

Before you all start making assumptions, a brief history between me & Savior:

We first met early November (I think). He just got invited to the Dragon order of Abylus, and I was helping him getting to Dyron (small note, he got the whole team killed, because he found Frahars interesting ). We played togheter on a regular basis and we got more close when clusters were formed as an orginasational structure within DOA. I was responsable for the cluster he was in, I had to make sure he had the best gear we could get him, and had to keep an eye on him to be sure he was teamed up with the right people.
By the end of December, DOA had some rough times. A lot of people left the game for various reasons, wich resulted in a few big holes in our supplies, ect ..
Stormrider took charge with me, Wicked, Vaynen and Pcheez as officers. When wicked stepped down as officer, and Pcheez left the game to, Riest & Savior made it to officer. I made sure Savior got the spot, since I felt that he was really contributing to the guild. Meanwhile Vaynen took leadership and I went to the high officer spot.
We had a few issues with Savior & DCP (he wasn't really fond of them), but they all were solved in an adult manner, but it got our other officers, high officers and Vaynen a bit worried about his attitude.
During early february, we noticed his attitude changing, while he progressed in his levels and became one of the key crafters and fighters in the guild. We tried to suit his needs (by orgenising special high level hunts for him for example), but it only got worse. So, we (I believe it was me, Vaynen, Riest and Stormrider) decided, after a long talk with Savior, that he no longer fitted in the guild. Ofcource he was a bit upset but that cooled down very quickly. We all still were good friends, except for the fact we were in different guilds now. Riest, an IRL friend of him, still is in our guild for example. I and sevral other DOA members regular hunted, harvested, ... together, we regulary helped eachother, so it still was a really good atmosphere between Savior and all DOA members, including me. I even harvested right next to him on the exact same spot he killed me, and nobody else around as far as the eye could see. So, if he still had issues with me, he had lots of occasions to kill me, or anything.
So, did we have issues, well I think we didn't. I, and some other people were a bit worried about the mood he was in from time to time (me, me, me, need levels, need xp, more, more, ... kind of attitude) but it didn't really bothered me or any other DOA member since he wasn't amongst our ranks anymore.

When he killed me, I think he just must of stubled over me while he was walking from point A to B and killed me .. well, .. just to kill me. There was no reason at all. It was just a plain Pk, just for the "fun" of killing someone. It could be any of you, but it happend to be me. And, Savior, knows damn well I can't do much back, not at the time he killed me, not afterwards. He apparently belongs to a guild where the fight level is the most important thing ingame. The leader of AoA doesn't even see anyting wrong in his actions, but he does find it wrong to get a team together and hunt him down to pay it back (knowing damn well I can't do it solo).

There are sevral reasons why this bothers me, I didn't really mind I got killed. I go exploring on a regular basis, maxing my dp from time to time, I really don't mind a death. But its the I'm the strongest one and I belong to a guild with sevral strong fighters and you can't do anyting back attitude that bothers me. Its the randomness of it (I'm bored, lemme just kill what comes in range thing), even a simple "ha, ha, I got you there didn't I" line would of made me *sigh* for a bit and forget about it. Even something simple as "sorry, I didn't mean it that way" would of solved it .. but it never came. Savior never explained why he did it, not to me, not to the community, nothing ... and in fact there is no explenation, it was just a random pk, thats all and I don't think the community should tolerate such behavior of a player. It seems to happen to repeat itself (referring to the mount slaughtering), and I'm sure it won't be the last time. I think Savior needs to be teached a little lesson, so that next time, he will think twice before picking his amps up. I think he has a brain someware .. he just needs to find it now

rushin wrote:who are u ingame?

I think if u r gonna threaten other players then u should at least b brave enough to let us know who u r...

Don't want to involve the guild i'm in with a personal matter, but don't worry, i know how to find you =D

magick1 wrote:Did you read the link? Doesn't look like you did, so here is the definition:

Devil's advocate; One who argues against a cause or position, not as a committed opponent but simply for the sake of argument or to determine the validity of the cause or position.

Anyway, as I have stated elsewhere on the site, and again now just to be clear about it.
I am against PvP and didn't like it becomeing available in Sor, I find no enjoyment at all in killing other players.
Furthermore I try to help players in and outside the game as far as I can.

I do go around in PvP areas. I accept that I can be killed and I know I won't like it.
Yet I have never been attacked or attacked anybody, not once. Not even when two factions were battleing in PR and I stopped by to look.

My best combat related skill is healing, which should tell a lot about what I prefer to do in a battle.
And I presume why nobody is treathen by my presence in PvP areas.

If you still have a desire to kill me in PvP, post your name in this thread and we can sort out a meeting ingame for as many rounds of PvP as you like.
I will promise the actions during the PvP will be what I would do if I ever was in a involuntary PvP*1.
Hopefully that will satisfy your lust to kill me on sight.

*1 For those of you who haven't figure it out, I will just die.

No i want to wait till you are digging to kill you so u can see how annoying it is. Since you seem to think it is acceptable to kill someone in focus gear and armed with a pick. Maybe if you experience first hand you will change your tune.

And that goes for anyone who thinks it's cool to kill harvesters.. don't give me that pvp crap.. their is simply no honour in it.

liam29 wrote:No i want to wait till you are digging to kill you so u can see how annoying it is. Since you seem to think it is acceptable to kill someone in focus gear and armed with a pick. Maybe if you experience first hand you will change your tune.

And that goes for anyone who thinks it's cool to kill harvesters.. don't give me that pvp crap.. their is simply no honour in it.

Liam29! I agree with your feelings about PKers entirely but that is not what magick1 meant at all! Playing devils advocate means that you don't necessarily agree with what you say, you are just putting across the other side of the arguement. magick1 has stayed impartial throughout, more power to him. You've got the wrong end of the stick about his comments, he's very against PvP of any kind so I think we can draw our own conclusions about how he feels about PKers.