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Re: Karavan Vs Kami Vs Netrual
Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 6:44 am
by gddss
thexdane wrote:yeah most ppl share MY perspective,
varelse wrote:You can't prove that.
thexdane wrote:so yeah i'm thinking i'm right here.
varelse wrote:At one time, most Europeans thought the world was FLAT.
Didn't make any of them right =)
LOL
ha ha ha ha!!
Re: Karavan Vs Kami Vs Netrual
Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 2:10 pm
by vguerin
grandma wrote:Sorry for the long post, but that is my stance...hence the reason I am neutral in this silly conflict, yet Karavan aligned.
[OOC]Gfunk... your post makes sense to me, and should to many of us. We are all here to have our own "personal" brand of fun. As a guild member and leader you have stated simple explanations on how you guys act. Pretty much your folks have all been consistant with that here too, which doesn't apply to several of the other guilds. I don't think there is anyone here that doesn't want everyone playing SoR to enjoy it... We didn't write the storyline (and we truly don't influence it as much as it was hyped) nor the rules, we are going with the lore/rules/storyline as is true to this particular game.[/end OOC]
Gfunk, this conflict is not simple ! As a warrior for Jena you will often be called upon to serve her needs, which our greater than our own. It was not that many days ago where you stood toe to toe with Basic and I against a scout force the CP had sent to the Matis Arena.
The call went out and you came, while many other guilds sat mere meters away exchanging hugs at the Yrkanis stable. Though our numbers were low against this powerful scout force, we did our best to drive them from our lands. Your actions were that of a warrior for Jena, your words merely show that you prefer to serve Jena with more than your blade...
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Re: Karavan Vs Kami Vs Netrual
Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 4:28 pm
by animd
grandma wrote:Every once in a while I pop into the general forums and see what kind of craziness stirs about. About twice a month I actually check the general forums...'nuff said. :0)
I'll post my stance (personal and guild: VeniVidiVici) on the situation, completely out of character...maybe some of these are similar with the views of others:
- We stand for Unity and helping people in the game. Helping someone understand parts of the game or helping them out leaves a lasting impression and effect that ripples allowing them to spread knowledge of the game or sway them to help others in a similar fashion.
- My stance on this silly warring of factions is NEUTRAL. PvP is not my fancy, hence the reason I am more for helping people out. However should there be a PvP event with faction vs faction, of course I will be present and possibly participate given the nature of the event.
- We are a KARAVAN ALIGNED GUILD. We reprimand members for running Kami missions and make sure that all potential members know we are Karavan aligned. However since we believe in helping people, we do not shun the Kami or Karavan followers, rather we shun individuals or guilds based on their actions.
- We are Karavan aligned NOT because of beliefs or roleplay, but because of convenience. Period. Should our guild have been born out of Zorai, we would be Kami because of convenience. (Convenience meaning we can't really play the game without choosing a side without being completely isolated from the rest of Atys.)
- Obviously we are not hardcore roleplayers, but we are about 50/50.
- I do not differentaite RP actions vs non-RP actions in the game. If you or your guild does something unfavorable with us, don't expect that you will jump on our good side with an "oh we were just having RP fun, but now we're not RPing anymore" claim. Actions within the game are actions in the game, period. Outside of the game is outside of the game...maybe I will be friendly there. :0)
- I don't expect myself or my guildmates to be held free from harm in PvP areas. We know they are PvP, we know that there are people utilizing those zones to roleplay their conflicts. Sure we ask that you don't slaughter us in those zones, but we don't expect it. Just don't expect us to be favorable to you from repeated negative actions. :0)
- Because of our beliefs in helping out as many people as we can, and not being a PvP guild, regardless of your faction orientation you can feel assured we will try and help you out in ANY zone and won't attack you. Of course there's exceptions such as vengeance against someone who's attacked an individual member first.
Sorry for the long post, but that is my stance...hence the reason I am neutral in this silly conflict, yet Karavan aligned.
Thank you Gfunk.
Those are some of the very same points I was trying to get across. I guess I was not quite articulate enough for some to understand.
AnimD
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Re: Karavan Vs Kami Vs Netrual
Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 10:09 pm
by thexdane
gddss wrote:Dude whatever, Asking? ROFLMAO What this all boils down to is you can't stand that I and others don't agree with you. Period. No matter how much you rant and rave I nor others will bow down to you just because you say you are right. We choose to play this game how we want with our own perspectives just as you choose yours, but then time and time again you seem to miss that point, so again I say whatever, go suck an egg for all I care. Have a nice day.
ok let me explain your perspective and the truth behind it
you want ALL the benefits of being karavaned aligned, like how you wear your karavan title. if you were wanting to be neutral you would NOT have participated in the even at all.
however when something bad comes along, such as pvp which i might add has been part of the game since i heard about it over a year ago, you whine and complain about it and then claim neutrality
see that is also what most guilds are doing. i'd be fine with you if you said "yes we're a karavan guild but we don't want to participate in pvp" however you are saying "we're only karavan when it suits our needs and when something bad happens we're neutral"
Re: Karavan Vs Kami Vs Netrual
Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 10:24 pm
by xenoarch
As I do roleplay Neutral, but OOC would like to see some of the story (I pay my 15 bucks a month like everyone else). Most faction systems i see it is not possible to be nueutral and do missions for both. ie see missions that furthur Karavans cause but doesn't harm the Kami then do missions for the Kami side that doesn't. ie if you get a point for karavan you lose 2 with kami. so i end up with both sides hating me. I'm new but in this thread i'm seeing confusued.. ther eis hope that the faction system can remain nuetral and enjoy the story line
or am i wrong and do i just go side with the kitins and have everyone hate me even the side i decalre
Maybe the only way to be really nuetral is have negative fame with everyone.
Re: Karavan Vs Kami Vs Netrual
Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 11:08 pm
by aelvana
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Re: Karavan Vs Kami Vs Netrual
Posted: Fri Jan 28, 2005 11:59 pm
by gddss
thexdane wrote:ok let me explain your perspective and the truth behind it
you want ALL the benefits of being karavaned aligned, like how you wear your karavan title. if you were wanting to be neutral you would NOT have participated in the even at all.
however when something bad comes along, such as pvp which i might add has been part of the game since i heard about it over a year ago, you whine and complain about it and then claim neutrality
see that is also what most guilds are doing. i'd be fine with you if you said "yes we're a karavan guild but we don't want to participate in pvp" however you are saying "we're only karavan when it suits our needs and when something bad happens we're neutral"
Again I would recommend you go back and read my posts, unfortunately you are so stuck on your own tune, I don't think you would recognize the truth of it if it slapped you in the face. I am done conversing with you. You are obviously one of those people that just can't be talked to because all they want is to be right. Good luck.
Re: Karavan Vs Kami Vs Netrual
Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2005 12:01 am
by gddss
xenoarch wrote:As I do roleplay Neutral, but OOC would like to see some of the story (I pay my 15 bucks a month like everyone else). Most faction systems i see it is not possible to be nueutral and do missions for both. ie see missions that furthur Karavans cause but doesn't harm the Kami then do missions for the Kami side that doesn't. ie if you get a point for karavan you lose 2 with kami. so i end up with both sides hating me. I'm new but in this thread i'm seeing confusued.. ther eis hope that the faction system can remain nuetral and enjoy the story line
or am i wrong and do i just go side with the kitins and have everyone hate me even the side i decalre
Maybe the only way to be really nuetral is have negative fame with everyone.
Good luck, no matter what way you go, you'll be wrong to someone. I suggest you just play it how you like it and enjoy the game.
Re: Karavan Vs Kami Vs Netrual
Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2005 12:36 am
by plarfman
gddss wrote:Good luck, no matter what way you go, you'll be wrong to someone. I suggest you just play it how you like it and enjoy the game.
this statement is so wrong I dont know where you get your ideas
JK
Re: Karavan Vs Kami Vs Netrual
Posted: Sat Jan 29, 2005 10:07 am
by gddss
plarfman wrote:this statement is so wrong I dont know where you get your ideas
JK
lol gee I wonder...