johntf wrote:-explain in quite explicit detail but I assume that would get the thread locked rather quickly for a masterful peice of character asassination.
Go ahead. Ive had school teachers trying the same with the end result of getting fired. So please do go ahead. It will amuse me
not to mention 3 mmorgs isnt a lot..
can you count? i stated 4 different games there did i not? Try counting again.
Also add ryzom and youll hit 5. I also just mentioned those because they are ok games with GOOD PVPERS IN IT.
I could say WoW, Dark and Light and Guildwars. But i didnt like the community OR the pvpers there.
-QUOTE :O nce again you seen to have completely misread my post, I specifically stated I don't care what the small minority on this thread who say they want pvp to be balanced and a challenge etc I referenced it to the rgeater pvp using community at large, and if you have played mmorpg that much you'd know my commentary on these people is correct and that decent pvpers are a very rare breed.
Again that is a VERY mistaken comment. Which community in large does have DISRESPECTFULL pvpers in general? EXEPT from WoW and TODAYS SWG.
(average age below 15).
-QUOTE:I wont move along, a forum is for debate not agreement.
That comment i agree with. But i also believe that arguements should be based on FACTS, not opinions. Most of your comment is based on PERSONAL OBSERVATION and NOT facts. ( and ive seen people do personal observations that in their head makes me a exploiter just because they couldnt beat me. Does it make it correct?.. Thats NOT a comment towards you. Its just me showing that a person observation can vary greatly.).
-QUOTE:My points are valid.
Absolutely not. Valid points are based on facts, not a personal observation. Example of this is you basing my character description based on a signature and a few forum posts. Talk to a majority of people that has talked to me INGAME for MORE then 3 sentences. THEN take a decision about my personality. Will be slightly more accurate. And as i said, a MAJORITY of them. Not 3 people.
- QUOTE:and I understand the nature and mentality of the ryzom player, as to those saying this is a place to discuss the merits of pvp fo ryzom well I'm afraid in the most obvious of logic it is. Pvp titles, would be there to encourge people to pvp more and some of us are saying thats a bad thing and as per usual the pvp fans get very defensive when any kind of debate is brought against them and say your all biased against pvpers and pvp.
Rly? can that have anything to do with the way you put your words? Ive personally been polite and agreed with people IN THIS THREAD that does not agree with my suggestion have i not? Try putting your words in a polite and serious way and maybe they will listen a bit more.
-QUOTE:Well to an extent yes I enjoy pvp.
but I would not enjoy it in ryzom nor would I enjoy how it would change this games community, attitude and target audience.
So, pvp changes a community? I thought pvp was already there. I just suggested a system that gives you a title and lets you check how MUCH pvp and HOW youve been doing in pvp lately. Does that change a persons personality?
-QUOTE:Simple reasoning I can offer here, can anyone name me a heavy to moderate pvp based game that has a community that isn't 70% absolute idiots.
EQ2 on the pvp servers. They are not 70% idiots. And if you say otherwise then you have a petty vision of the human beings and prove this to me. And if you do say so, you will show myself and others here that you generalise people to a EXTREME point. Which is unfair and to be quite honest in my own opinion pretty low.
-QUOTE:However sadly I am now sure that my words fall on deaf ears and that you will not see that the majority of roleplayers do not take the same stance on pvp as the few in this thread.
oh and I could base it on many facts garnered from your posts and attiude and explain in quite explicit detail but I assume that would get the thread locked rather quickly for a masterful peice of character asassination.