A 2nd letter to FairHaven from AA

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petej
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Re: A 2nd letter to FairHaven from AA

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mtsmith wrote:Teach yourselves to think freely and realize that the world is not just black and white, but rather shades of grey.

Wow you actualy said something I can agree with lol

Indeed the world is not as Black n White (Cyan and Yellow?) as the zealots (or each races governing body) would have us beleive

Some would call me a Kami , I do myself but this is not true im a Homin who follows the teachings of the Kami as most Zorai do and I wear the Kami mask with pride . I do not however require this of my friends

In major Faction conflicts I will follow the Kami , if any outside force were to threaten the Zorai homelands I would defend vigorously , in other lands I will most likely allie myself to those friends ive met on my travels , this is especialy true for my Tryker brothers who ive had a long association with.

I helped in the sadly failed attempt to build the Tryker Kami Temple , I helped Ballistic Mystix (Karavan/Tryker Guild) gain their Outpost in Enchanted Isle ,I wouldve helped Band of Hawks defend theirs against Aedan Artisans or OmegaV (unfortunately I didnt hear about OV's attack until too late)

Personaly I view the Lakelands as my second home , the Zorai governing body may favour the Fyros (reflected in Zorai Citizen Fame) but ive had little contact with them myself ...anyway im rambling to sum up Faction/Religion arent everything to everyone and only Zealots toe the line of Race and Faction above all , I prefer to live in and be a part of a multicoloured world not a Black and White one :p

Id also call on all Trykers to Unite , keep the Lakelands free and in Tryker hands regardless of Faction
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Re: A 2nd letter to FairHaven from AA

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riveit wrote:Where has Pero denounced all that the Tryker stand for? Could you please be specific?

Also I do not know any Trykers name Lukati. I find it funny for an anonymous homin to preach to us about Tryker unity. Is this the unity amongst the wealthy half of the Trykers? Or unity among the half of Trykers that have been deprived of crystals or beg and purchase them? Are you united with Lurena who could not beg, borrow or buy a purple crystal stack until we freely shared a few with her that had been shared with us? Perhaps you could tell us your name so that we may see if you are enjoying a large share of the wealth from Atys while accusing us beggars of self-indulgence as you did in an earlier post?
There's a Zorai that goes by the name of Lukati, but last I heard he's in a deep sleep. I am Zerutten, also of the Zorai race, but have recently been approved for Tryker Citizenship. Yes, I would be united with Lurena, who I contacted not too long ago for the distribution of 12 stacks of crystals. I am more than willing to hand out the share of crystals I get from my guild, but I can assure you that while they won't be free, they won't be expensive either. Unlike a large portion of posters here, I try as much as I can to practice what I preach. What I preach is a united Tryker force opposed to both Kami and Karavan powers. I preach that we take care of ourselves and our federation before we take care of these petty, foolish religions and the dischord among our fellow citizens caused by these religions. AA is a fairly large guild stationed in Tryker lands, and just as easily as your guild took the self-righeous path towards Jena, you could have helped many others form this unity.

Now, your leader sends these twisted messages to our Capital. While they may be seen by your guild and others as positive messages, there are others in the lakelands who will view these messages as false, and have every right to do so. I could care less what the Karavan, Matis, and/or Jena have done for your guild. The fact is that messages such as these, regardless of their intentions, will drive a wedge further into the unity of the Tryker population.

Or maybe it's time for me to start sending heathenish letters of no tolerance towards any Tryker but a neutral Tryker. Or maybe start spewing out inane babble about how the Kami have been nice to me in my homeland so we should embrace them as our brethren. I'm sure there'll be a few people who agree, but my stance would be misleading towards others, and would be counter-productive towards the goal I strive for.

From these letters I gather than AA wishes for unity, preferably under Jena. That is simply not possible. This has been conveyed from the start. Time to try something new, perhaps? Why don't you drop the cover of a hateful religion, and work towards strengthening your ties among all Tryker guilds? Well, the time for that may have passed according to some guilds, so you could be stuck where you are for quite some time.

But I'm sure these letters will achieve for you or your guild exactly what they were meant to. A plethora of argument and debate among everyone who believes they have a higher understanding of something that is entirely subjective.
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Re: A 2nd letter to FairHaven from AA

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mtsmith wrote:You talk of enslavement? Spend a few days with the good folks of Infinity and you'll learn a thing or two about manipulation, greed, and selfish pride.

/snippage

I was sad to leave Veni Vidi Vici, but soon found a glorious home with OmegaV. I was treated as a welcome brother from the first day. These folks embraced my warrior spirit and showed me just how wrong some of the things I had heard of the Matis could be.

HAHAHAHAHA, thanks for a good laugh. Keep up the good work ;)

And as for Mioettes and some other Trykers opinions go, theyre in full unison with game backstory and lore. Which actually puts Tryker unity and freedom of thought and religion above all else.
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Re: A 2nd letter to FairHaven from AA

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turjake wrote:HAHAHAHAHA, thanks for a good laugh. Keep up the good work ;)

And as for Mioettes and some other Trykers opinions go, theyre in full unison with game backstory and lore. Which actually puts Tryker unity and freedom of thought and religion above all else.
You should actually read the lore and stop listening to the skewed interpretations heard by those who have lost their way or by those who don't understand our people in the first place. :) If you did you would know that the Tryker people put Jena first above all as the mother of creation. Even those who support the mysterious Elias Tryton and his dream of peace do not try to claim that he supplants Jena in any way.
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Re: A 2nd letter to FairHaven from AA

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akm72 wrote:At the outset of the temple building the Karavan invited Trykers to the building site for the first time; Where they instantly slew all those in the crowd that had more Kami fame than Karavan fame (which included me). They gave no warning, despite the previous Tryker vote for toleration. Despite that violent provocation, I did not atempt to drive those who dug for the Karavan temple from the old lands. Instead I tried to protect those who dug for the Kami temples, in the forlorn hope that the Tryker vote would be forfilled and the lakelands would eventually receive both temples.
The Karavan did not slay anybody. If you believe this, then you have an interesting idea of what death really is. I am sorry, but you know nothing of death, nor do any of our generation. Thank you Jena.
I fought to defend a Tryker guild from an aggressive and unprovocated attack.
Do you claim also that the "loyal" Corsairs are "turncoats", and that Still Wyler was a traitor when he led them? If so you must also claim that the "many" Trykers who join their ranks are also turncoats. Just how many Trykers are you willing to butcher in the name of Jena?
Kenshiro is a liar and a troublemaker, though I will be the first to admit that he talks a good game. He sure had me fooled. He claimed that the Band of Hawks only pretended to support Kami to spy on enemy guilds and spread dissention among Kami slaves, thus freeing them from tyrany. He claimed to be a Karavaneer and a Tryker supporter who wished to use his skills at subterfuge to infiltrate the Kami ranks and spread disease from the inside. When he approached me about friendship and alliance during the temple war, I bought his line thinking he was telling the truth. Later he showed his true colors...

We had an agreement that OmegaV would take Whirling Stronghold in order better serve both Jena and the Tryker people as Band of Hawks didn't have the resources or the manpower to maintain such a place. This agreement was made on good terms and I was told that Band of Hawks would be there for fun but that they would call upon no support in the defense as several of their members were planning to remove themselves from the physical world of Atys to meditate and devise a plan to defeat Ma-Duk. Our part of the agreement was that we would support Karavan Tryker guilds to be best of our abilities (we have met and exceeded that promise despite Kenshiro's deception). The day prior to the attack, Kenshiro and I spoke as friends. On the next day his words meant nothing as we met the largest combined neutral and Kami force to date.

I mistakenly believed Kenshiro and the only reason we showed up with a large force was to raise the threshold to reasonable levels. Lo and behold, we were supprised to see the largest Kami/Neutral force assembled in my lifetime ready to stuanch a supposedly agreed upon attack. Volumes can be spoken for the strength of our cause and our convictions, because we stood victorious in the end, but not before Kenshiro decided to sling all sorts of nastiness our way. The power of Jena shone brightly that day as we spearheaded the very first successful attack against a strong outpost, raising the threshold very high levels.

The truth of the matter is, Kenshiro, the self proclaimed "honorable", fooled his neutral allies, he fooled the Kami slaves, and he deceived the Karavan faithful in one of the most troublesome lies of our time. I am truly sorry to say that this lead to our fighting against guilds such as Evolution, Order of the Dragonblades, and a small number of Ballistic Mystix, all of which we have considered friends in the past. Most of us were shocked to see this and regret the fact to this day.
I am no pacifist. I know perfectly well that peace comes about through using violence or the threat of violence to quell the aggressors. When I see the Karavan Alliance attacking other guilds without provocation or cause, it isn't difficult to determine who the aggressors are. Are you truely serving Jena by attacking your fellow homins? Are you even sure she's going to thank you for driving moderates away?
Mioette, I am sorry to say that this same point still comes across as unbelievable when looking at your list of allies. :) It's all well and good to say that Karavan guilds are welcome in your little alliance, but what self respecting servant of Jena would wish to mix ways with those who worship a demon? Unprovoked? You provoked the Karavan by fighting us without cause while wearing a false mantle of neutrality. The same group of individuals who preached peace, love, and harmony were some of the first to choose to side with the Kami during the temple war. Neutral? I don't think so.
Speaks a forest dweller who puts his loyalty to Jena above his loyalty to his fellow Trykers...
This Tryker has never forgotten his roots, nor have I forsaken my people. Everything I do, every day, is done to improve the lives of my fellow Tryker. Many refuse to believe or care that Ma-Duk is the father of destruction, hell bent on dominating each and every homin on Atys. Many forget the old ways and worship false gods or deny their faith. I follow in the footsteps of our Governor Will Styler. He tried to learn more about the enemy through his time spent with the Corsair. I did this during our liason with Infinity. He also spent many years in exile with the Matis, discovering that they are a people rich in lore, champions of Jena who have become unwavering allies in a cause greater than petty ancient feuds between our diverse peoples.

[ooc] I really dislike this dissection of posts and only repeat the behavior to show a point. You in the Samsara seem to persistently do so, often times removing the context and putting your own taint on what is written.

[back ic]

My thoughts:

I don't know as an absolute fact who created the races of the land. What I do know is that our (Tryker and Matis) lore tells us that Jena brought life to the land through the creation of Atys, populated her creation with curious homin eager to find their way. The lore tells us that while once friendly with the Fyros, we have a hard time trusting former friends turned to darkness. Who are we to question our ancestors; people who lived through near decimation to rebuild and thrive?

"How they see the Fyros
The Fyros where once allies who gave Trykers protection against the domineering Matis in exchange for water supplies at low cost. But the Trykers learning the art of warfare in their struggle to break the shackles of Matis slavery, thanks to the legendary Company of Loria, soon meant they could negotiate more advantageous trade agreements. Nowadays the Trykers feel they no longer need their condescending Fyros protectors of old, especially with the new feeling of fraternity with the Matis. Furthermore, the Fyros moving closer to the Kamis and the weird Zoraïs has widened the gap of religious difference.
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The Tryker people are stubborn, strong willed, curious, friendly, adventurous folk who can be described best as truly free spirited. This does not mean that we do not know right from wrong or that we cannot make our own decisions. I choose freely to follow Jena, the mother of all. For some reason it seems the bright side of the coin when compared to the idea of following Ma-Duk, the father of lies. Wyler said that he desired peace. Who doesn't? However, he has ever been the champion of his people. He may not look it, but the Gov'ner isn't a spring yubo. Through his guidance I prepared to champion the cause of Jena as directed by our leader and have done so with honor and with pride. I know right from wrong and will continue to support my people as guided, without interpretation or the influence of mad ravings.
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Re: A 2nd letter to FairHaven from AA

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mtsmith wrote:You talk of enslavement? Spend a few days with the good folks of Infinity and you'll learn a thing or two about manipulation, greed, and selfish pride. That was an indentured servitude that I do not care to repeat in this lifetime or any other.
Would appear that Spiffy has more in common with the Lagoon Brothers than once thought. He too is like an acorn... small and bitter.

I could write pages on that whole "few days" with the guilds spent together (specially since I've seen it from both sides), but here is not the place. I'll just leave it as a cheap shot at a large, successful guild and let you all go back to your religious arguments.
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It's encouraging to see the same troublemakers question our neutrality, perhaps our faction really does have them scared? Trying to sidetrack the real issue, which is Tryker independence, by trying to twist our past activities must mean they're really low on mental sap. I could question their loyalties too as it seems they fight for their gods only when it suits them and then only against secondary threats like ourselves, the true Neutrals.

I don't want to take that away from them, some people need faith to justify their actions. The Neutral way is one of acceptance, tolerance and freedom. Like most of the letter writers replying here, I'm no Tryker. I have drunk with enough of them to understand their easygoing attitude though. I do have my own 'selfish' reasons for wanting them to unite with our faction - strength in numbers. If any are so worried about Kami attack that they'd join the faction that opposes them, then why not step back, think a while and come over to the smart side ;)

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Re: A 2nd letter to FairHaven from AA

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totnkopf wrote:Would appear that Spiffy has more in common with the Lagoon Brothers than once thought. He too is like an acorn... small and bitter.

I could write pages on that whole "few days" with the guilds spent together (specially since I've seen it from both sides), but here is not the place. I'll just leave it as a cheap shot at a large, successful guild and let you all go back to your religious arguments.
Four months is a bit more than a few days and perhaps 30 (I'm being generous here) active members is not what I call large, but I digress...
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Re: A 2nd letter to FairHaven from AA

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mtsmith wrote:
Kenshiro is a liar and a troublemaker, though I will be the first to admit that he talks a good game. He sure had me fooled. He claimed that the Band of Hawks only pretended to support Kami to spy on enemy guilds and spread dissention among Kami slaves, thus freeing them from tyrany. He claimed to be a Karavaneer and a Tryker supporter who wished to use his skills at subterfuge to infiltrate the Kami ranks and spread disease from the inside. When he approached me about friendship and alliance during the temple war, I bought his line thinking he was telling the truth. Later he showed his true colors...

I find that strange as Kenshiro was one of the most honourable homins i knew, putting the reputation of his guild above all. A guild which has been Kami since the day it was founded.
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Re: A 2nd letter to FairHaven from AA

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myseren wrote:I find that strange as Kenshiro was one of the most honourable homins i knew, putting the reputation of his guild above all. A guild which has been Kami since the day it was founded.
Prior to the temple war, I have to admit that I barely knew Kenshiro. I only know what I experienced firsthand after that point. When did a bold faced lie become an honorable thing?

Kami and Karavan aside, nobody can call Spiff a liar. I say what I mean and I do what I say without games and without hesitation.

[ooc] I really like Kenshiro as a person and hold absolutely no ill will toward him. All I would say is that Ryzom is not real life and what is said in character in both the game and these forums is not generally indicative of actual events. I believe that Kenshiro the human IS honorable and roleplayed what he did because he believed it was right. My character does not at all believe that what Kenshiro did was right or honorable, but that really holds no bearing upon my opinion of the person behind the toon. Sometimes I regret not having taken screenshots of our conversations, but to be honest I probably wouldn't have used them anyhow, since that to me would diminish any credibility I have as a roleplayer.
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The Meanest And Baddest Little Tryker In Atys
Never To Be Questioned And To Be Obeyed At All Costs
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The End Is Only The Beginning
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Mantra 1: Sleep is a Crutch
Mantra 2: Food is for the Weak
Mantra 3: Goggles... it's ALL about the goggles
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