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**** wrote:Alright I will precise my opinion.

On the very question "Do we really need PvP?", I answer YES.
Full free PvP anywhere, probably not.

What you tell me about the conflict between Karavan and Kamis worries me alot. In fact that means the great majority of English and German communities are totally OOC and don't respect the Lore.
It seems these communities prefer to play a game, and not roleplay a character. That's very sad because SoR is based on an original universe and counts on the storyline to make it a different game. So if you just hack n'slash and say "it's just a game I don't want to think about a restrictive RP", I think you miss the main part of the game.

On Aniro, there are alot of RP Guilds. They follow the Lore to interact with the universe, including other characters. When you decide to create a Matis, just reading the Lore you'll see that Matis are not "Good". You're going to play an haughty fanatic and not the transposed version of you-player in the game. Of course we're all for peace, we could all be friends and all IRL. But that's OOC because our characters just can't have the same vision of the World. Your character can't know all about Kami and Karavan and decide "they are all stupid, let's kiss each other". And it's really funnier to play the opposite of yourself I tell you.

So globally, English and German communities are not Roleplayers. Are they?


The consequence of RP and respect of the Lore is that when your pro-Kara character will see a pro-Kami in the Confusion Grove, he'll want to make them leave. Currently, it has to be done through duels. That smells terribly when you're in group and want to drive out another group. So when in groups, we go to PR, fight each other and the winner may come back. And I hope that doesn't shock you if I tell you that several guilds on Aniro don't use teleports of the opposite faction, and actually leave the area when expelled by the opposite faction. You know that don't ruin our fun at all, it makes the world living and not another theme park with jugulas on the right and ploderos on the left please keep the queue straight 20 minutes from here refreshments behind you don't litter have a nice day.
I have the impression you think as a player and not as your character when dealing with the storyline and the Lore. And towards kitins it's clear : how could for example a Matis accept Kamis when you remember Kamis stopped Matis from building a barrier against kitins in the Fleeting Garden ? How could a Tryker forget how Zoraïs let them die by kitins in front of their closed city gates ? It's really not a world where you would kiss someone with a different opinion. And that's more than interesting to play it.
That said, a lot of players on Aniro still think like that and cries when RPers tell them that Fyros smell, Trykers are little kids Zoraïs are gibbaïs or Matis are blind. Personally I that understand some players don't get it and want to play their comfortable game and chat with others. But that's not the purpose of a MMORPG like SoR, and they miss the main part.

Sooooo if we French are waiting Outposts (not me especially), it's for RP. Each faction and race will fight for their deep believes. Not players believes. That's the point.

**** wrote:Alright I will precise my opinion.

On the very question "Do we really need PvP?", I answer YES.
Full free PvP anywhere, probably not.

What you tell me about the conflict between Karavan and Kamis worries me alot. In fact that means the great majority of English and German communities are totally OOC and don't respect the Lore.
It seems these communities prefer to play a game, and not roleplay a character. That's very sad because SoR is based on an original universe and counts on the storyline to make it a different game. So if you just hack n'slash and say "it's just a game I don't want to think about a restrictive RP", I think you miss the main part of the game.

On Aniro, there are alot of RP Guilds. They follow the Lore to interact with the universe, including other characters. When you decide to create a Matis, just reading the Lore you'll see that Matis are not "Good". You're going to play an haughty fanatic and not the transposed version of you-player in the game. Of course we're all for peace, we could all be friends and all IRL. But that's OOC because our characters just can't have the same vision of the World. Your character can't know all about Kami and Karavan and decide "they are all stupid, let's kiss each other". And it's really funnier to play the opposite of yourself I tell you.

So globally, English and German communities are not Roleplayers. Are they?


The consequence of RP and respect of the Lore is that when your pro-Kara character will see a pro-Kami in the Confusion Grove, he'll want to make them leave. Currently, it has to be done through duels. That smells terribly when you're in group and want to drive out another group. So when in groups, we go to PR, fight each other and the winner may come back. And I hope that doesn't shock you if I tell you that several guilds on Aniro don't use teleports of the opposite faction, and actually leave the area when expelled by the opposite faction. You know that don't ruin our fun at all, it makes the world living and not another theme park with jugulas on the right and ploderos on the left please keep the queue straight 20 minutes from here refreshments behind you don't litter have a nice day.
I have the impression you think as a player and not as your character when dealing with the storyline and the Lore. And towards kitins it's clear : how could for example a Matis accept Kamis when you remember Kamis stopped Matis from building a barrier against kitins in the Fleeting Garden ? How could a Tryker forget how Zoraïs let them die by kitins in front of their closed city gates ? It's really not a world where you would kiss someone with a different opinion. And that's more than interesting to play it.
That said, a lot of players on Aniro still think like that and cries when RPers tell them that Fyros smell, Trykers are little kids Zoraïs are gibbaïs or Matis are blind. Personally I that understand some players don't get it and want to play their comfortable game and chat with others. But that's not the purpose of a MMORPG like SoR, and they miss the main part.

Sooooo if we French are waiting Outposts (not me especially), it's for RP. Each faction and race will fight for their deep believes. Not players believes. That's the point.

**** wrote:Alright I will precise my opinion.

So globally, English and German communities are not Roleplayers. Are they?

Sooooo if we French are waiting Outposts (not me especially), it's for RP. Each faction and race will fight for their deep believes. Not players believes. That's the point.

...And towards kitins it's clear : how could for example a Matis accept Kamis when you remember Kamis stopped Matis from building a barrier against kitins in the Fleeting Garden ? How could a Tryker forget how Zoraïs let them die by kitins in front of their closed city gates ? It's really not a world where you would kiss someone with a different opinion

xenofur wrote:thank you, best post i've read since quite a long time, i hope you won't mind if i translate that to german later this day.

i have a few questions though. a few weeks back there was an invasion of so called cutthroats, they staged a diversion in matis, tried to assault tryker, but got talked out of it and finally invaded fyros, where EVERY homin that was able and willing helped repel them, no matter what race or faction. what happened on aniro?

edit: i meant ****'s post, not audrey *g*

sofiaoak wrote:Language or country has notting to do with this.

It's all about roleplaying communities creating they own purpose in game world. Sure, it can be fun, but it's all about restricted controlled communities. These communities are very closed, because they has they own reasons to roleplay. They can't accept anyting outside, what does not fit they roleplaying idea. I have seen this in Ultima Online, was even part of it. It's very nice, but it does not support majority of the player base.

**** wrote:Alright I will precise my opinion.

On the very question "Do we really need PvP?", I answer YES.
Full free PvP anywhere, probably not.

What you tell me about the conflict between Karavan and Kamis worries me alot. In fact that means the great majority of English and German communities are totally OOC and don't respect the Lore.

**** wrote:
So globally, English and German communities are not Roleplayers. Are they?

**** wrote: Sooooo if we French are waiting Outposts (not me especially), it's for RP. Each faction and race will fight for their deep believes. Not players believes. That's the point.

**** wrote:What you tell me about the conflict between Karavan and Kamis worries me alot. In fact that means the great majority of English and German communities are totally OOC and don't respect the Lore.
It seems these communities prefer to play a game, and not roleplay a character. That's very sad because SoR is based on an original universe and counts on the storyline to make it a different game. So if you just hack n'slash and say "it's just a game I don't want to think about a restrictive RP", I think you miss the main part of the game.