Ryzom

It seems the server merge may only be a week away, so it's probably best for people to sample each others RP first-hand, rather than go by forum posts alone

Vutescu, I have to say I have read most of what Raynes has posted regarding his own RP (mainly on the NA forums), and I really don't see what your problem is there. Movies, games, magazines are full of the awful stuff that happens each day, and generally multiplied in terms of 'action'. There has to be a balance to things in general, which means 2 or more sides to every story, 2 or more outcomes to every event, etc.

Let's not make our new friends unwelcome before they've even got here eh?

Alot of very good points made on both sides, but I seem to get the feeling people dont mind RP, as long as it doesn't affect their enjoyment of the game.

We all paid for the game and stump up our few bob every month to enter the land of Atys, so we all deserve parity of esteem in our enjoyment of the game. If someone (no names no pack drill ) wants to experience their game, portraying a PK'r, thats OK by me, as long as they confine their PK'ing to somebody that wants to do it, there is a Consentual PvP ability everwhere in the land and not confined to PR.

BUT, if somebody has paid for the game and the monthly installment on top of that, If they dont want to PvP, They should be allowed unhindered enjoyment of the game and not be attacked against their wishes. They are RP'ing a peaceful person, what right does somebody RP'ing a Griefer have that makes their rights worth nothing?

The arguement that PR is a PvP area and there's a warning etc. holds no water for me, as far as I'm concerned, it's a place for guilds to sort out their grievances.

Anybody who has worked hard enough to be able to hunt/forage/harvest etc. in PR, in my opinion have already paid their dues via DP and frustration and their reward is to be able to work in those areas with out someone inflicting their version of enjoyment on them.

If I'm in PR and I see a griefer attacking another player without their consent, I will wade in on the side of the attackee, I dont care what factions are involved.

Just my 2 d worth


Valda.

fiach wrote:
BUT, if somebody has paid for the game and the monthly installment on top of that, If they dont want to PvP, They should be allowed unhindered enjoyment of the game and not be attacked against their wishes.

I dont want to be killed by Varinx and Kincher, so perhaps we should remove those too ?

I see no real difference. The regions where this is possible are PvP regions. We will just have to deal with it.

ozric wrote:I dont want to be killed by Varinx and Kincher, so perhaps we should remove those too ?

I see no real difference. The regions where this is possible are PvP regions. We will just have to deal with it.

The way I see it is the Knichers were there first, they have dibs on the harvesters LOL

I outlined how I will deal with it (i'll be using one of your flamey swords as well, so you will be partly to blame) LOL

Well met, all. I've played a bit less than a month on Windermeer. My wife and I are still settling on what characters we will end up playing, so we're just learning about the game, the world, and the players. We've played EQ together and I've played a few other MMOs. We settled on Ryzom after hearing great things and reading the forums. So far it has exceeded almost all of our expectations.

I wanted to post a couple thoughts on this topic, hopefully to add to the discussion:

I have been very impressed and very much enjoyed what I've seen so far in Atys. The maturity, civility, and generosity of the players I've met so far has been simply wondrous. I'm all for role playing and admire the dedication it takes. Throughout, though, I've been a little unsettled by the storyline's use of religion as the source of friction. Much as I try, I've found divorcing game events from real life ones impossible.

Religous extremism makes my enjoyment of anything, real life or virtual, go down dramatically. Note that I don't mean simple strong belief. Too often in our (real) world, religion is used as an excuse for performing evil acts on innocent people. Even for roleplay purposes, I don't look forward to hearing the kind of rhetoric that can spew from an over-zealous believer. I especially don't want to see someone act out in a game the murder of an innocent noncombatant simply for a difference of belief, opinion, or philosophy. That happens all too often in real life for us to shadow such cowardice in a virtual world.

If some are going to roleplay extremists, so be it. It's certainly not my right to tell them how to play. I do hope they confine their quarry to those with some means to defend themselves. If not, I certainly hope that this community does not tolerate their presence.

Good hunting to you all,

Tryker Hanky
Zorai Vercingetorix
Windermeer

The fact that killing in a pvp zone is classed as griefing here really puts me of ever trying to RP in Ryzom. Griefing is luring mobs or killing someone again and again. We know the rules in PR, there are ways to deal with the potential threat and theres no dp just lost mats and time. Trying to put conditions or exceptions on things just gets messy.


Always prefered my rp warts and all, why shouldn't there be a band of deranged homins prowling the PR for people. why shouldnt there be kami zealots high on Najab juice purging the defilers from atys sacred roots etc Just as there should be the mothers, the healers and the soldiers to keep homin civilisation moving (oh and the lovers and the fools too ). As long as its inside nevrax rules then its fine by me.

A little scary can be a lot of fun

Just to clarify, I mean bt the trem "Griefing" as causing grief to other players, If they want to play a game a certain way (peacefully), why should somebody who wants to play agressivly, be allowed to inflict that style of game on them.
They both paid their money for enjoying the game.
PR wasn't always PvP, that is a recent inception into the game.


Valda.

Dont go PR PvP zone then and ya wont risk getting wooped for Supreme mats 70-73 mats a reset sucks so ya have to remeber there limited to make people want to fight over them getting killed in a PvP zone due to RP is just a added bonus for Raynes

I think there is some misconception about what is meant by a Kami extremist.

In real life when someone thinks of a extremist they automatically think terrorist. They assume that it means the person is going to go around blowing up buildings and killing people all in the name of religion. It's also assumed that anyone who doesn't beleive exactly what the extremeist believes will be either hurt or killed. If this assumption is right or not is for another discussion. That is however what many people see an extremest as.

This is not what my character is. I think the better term for him might be religious zealot. He doesn't go around killing innocent homins if they don't beleive what he does. If it were possible to do things like blow up buildings, he woulnd't do that either. Pretty much my character views the Karavan and it's supporters as the enemy. If a Homin has associations with the Karavan he usually will just start calling them names and telling them how foolish they are. If he is in the pvp areas and sees a homin that supports the Karavan he MIGHT attack them.

Common man dont start changing hehe Karavan guilds knew where they stood with you, in a PvP zone with Raynes = kill him or be killed hehe