Ryzom

neofuzz wrote:The patch today was indeed extremely poor. This change in foraging is the worst part. I don't hate it, nor do I particularly like it. However what disappoints me the most, is that a few things which detract from the game's playability sneak in every patch unannounced. This is the case with this change in foraging also. We have to continually test everything, every patch, just to see what doesn't work anymore, because none of these things ever get a mention in patch notes. I don't look forward to patches in Ryzom like I used to in other MMO's and I too begin to wonder whether this is worth sticking round for anymore. To me, these undocumented changes to the game's playability every patch are unacceptable.

aldrikoy wrote:Seconded. The stealth nerf is far more annoying/alienating/cancellation-provoking than the announced change, however controversial the announced change may be. The stealth nerf leaves one with a sense of being betrayed, or played for a fool, or both. Not the kind of thing that SoR can afford to induce in its player-base, particularly with the competition out there. I would far prefer to read an announcement to the effect of "Folks, we have some serious balance problems that must be resolved or our plans for the game's evolution will be seriously derailed. The changes we need to introduce will probably not be popular with some, but we believe they are needed. Here's what's coming..." Then we can argue in the forums and hope that our feedback will be considered. I like to think that at least some of it is. I enjoy this game, and I think it has the potential to be a great one. But it could also sink pretty fast, if its rather small player-base gets too frustrated with the stealth nerfs and poorly tested patches. I would hate to see SoR go under, and pray that Cerest and company are paying attention to what is being written in these posts.

raynes wrote:First of all this first patch was not a "content" patch so to speak. It adds some new features, fixes some bugs, upgrades the look of towns, and adds improvements to range combat. The content patches are going to be on the 21st of December and the 6th of Jan. They have said this since they announced any dates pertaining to the second update.

I'm trying to understand something, so answer some questions for me.

1) Why should you be able to harvest in PR below max level?
2) Why do you need to harvest in PR as opposed to other places?

cerest wrote:I see everyone had an opinion about the harvestability in the Prime Roots. I can say that I was told there was an inbalance and it will be fixed asap. I don't think it will be like it was before, but it should be better than it is today. Thanks for your understanding guys. Patches always have surprises, this is one of them.

yuritau wrote:Raynes, answer this question for me:

How can you possibly equate someone going to the PR and foraging for q60 mats (that's the best you can get, try for q70 at 51 PR forage and you MIGHT get 61.. at a 5% success rate) with getting the best equipment in the game?

Seriously.

How does this make sense to you?

I'm relatively new to the game, myself.. my highest level is currently 93 forest forage. My guildmates helped me get a few of the roots tickets anyways, so I've been working up PR foraging a little. Tell me why it's wrong for me to be able to pull q60/q70 supreme mats, when I can't even use those mats to craft equipment for myself? (my crafting AND my stats allow me to use higher)

You wanna say I shouldn't even be able to forage in PR till 200+ or whatever? then don't give me the skill tree till 200+, and make all the mats down there 200+.

If the PR tree is available at 51, then any lvl 51+ forager damn well BETTER be able to forage in PR (getting there and staying alive are something different). Adding these minimum levels without changing the level availability of the PR tree is stupid. No two ways about it. Now anyone wanting to level PR forage MUST, as has been stated already, careplan or let others forage thier sources.

This nerf basically amounts to punishing the low level players for being low level.

lyrah68 wrote:Think on that...that means...if you can NEVER prospect and pull ONE unit of PR mats at level 51 Prime roots foraging....and you have NEVER been there already and broke whatever MAGIC number they assigned it...you will NEVER be able to go there...the way the system is currently.

OR Cliff notes version...The way the game stands now, it is currently IMPOSSIBLE to gain a foot in the door of the prime roots, regardless of all of your other levels.

OR
If you aint got there now...TOO BAD *sound of a slamming jail door* PR closed *royal wave* Bu Bye now!

xcomvic wrote:wow, i barely read through this whole thread, but, WOW, nothing in the release notes...

I think its somewhat of a good idea because now you have to meet certain requirements to level forage in PR, it is a high level area after all. I would love to be able to pull from the PR at anytime by myself, but that shouldn't be, even if i were 250 in melee or magic... I would expect some backup at all times... hmm which brings me to a question: did they implement PvP in PR this patch or was it the second one? or third? but most of you already know where I am heading with that...