Ryzom

Eh 6 pages of stuff so i only scanned the first 3. May have been mention but EQ2 pushed back it's release and WoW took that opening and pushed back also.

syneris wrote:Eh 6 pages of stuff so i only scanned the first 3. May have been mention but EQ2 pushed back it's release and WoW took that opening and pushed back also.

Actually EQ2 pulled there release date ahead 1 week(Nov 8th) and WoW pushed theirs back 1 week(Nov 22).

eschiava wrote:I pray what you say is true, I fear it is not!

The other night, I was listenting to regional chat on the NA server. On who appeared to be a beta tester was relating a recent chat he had with a GM. He said the GM was very concerned over Ryzom's success as the NA registration was only about 800, and that the european servers weren't much better.

I only hope that it is not true!

Miy

That is 100% NOT true. I have no idea where you heard that but I KNOW that a GM would never say something like that. The reprecutions from me is enough to scare them let alone the senior GMs. It's almost laughable, almost.

cerest wrote:That is 100% NOT true. I have no idea where you heard that but I KNOW that a GM would never say something like that. The reprecutions from me is enough to scare them let alone the senior GMs. It's almost laughable, almost.

I'm laughing.

Morax wrote:Actually EQ2 pulled there release date ahead 1 week(Nov 8th) and WoW pushed theirs back 1 week(Nov 22).

Wooot!
I can't wait, thats in a little over 2 weeks

lyrah68 wrote: As to the number of 800 in the NA playerbase...I don't think it is ANYWHERE that low. I can find 100 or more online at ANYtime of the day or night. (yes, I have random boughts of insomnia and have been online midnight or midday).

*Laugh* some people of french community had found, maybe other as well , a way to know how many account there was, that was much more and it was at mid September.

By the way, it doesnt work anymore

tarius wrote:Hi, I'm from Germany! I was one of the first people, knowing for Ryzom and made the first and biggest Fansite the last 1.5 years. But unfortunatly the game is still nearly unknown in Germany. I don't know how many german subscribers we have. I don't think it are much more than 1k, even less, my Fansite is the biggest one in german and got only 400 Visits per day. Every day a lot of people quit their accounts, including me. So i think 20k is a much to big number.

And don't forget, the Developmentcosts have to be payed back too.

Btw imo Nevrax made to much changes to the game, to fit it to your, the North American market.

One Word to DAoC, it is so popular in Europe, cause its playing in our old World. But lost much longtime subscribers since ToA, me too.

Regards
Tarius
Ex-Webmaster of http://www.ryzom-game.info

Well considering the game site was up WELL over 2 years ago, if you were one of the first to know about it only 1.5 years ago - then I guess VERY FEW people knew about it way back.

As far as changing the game, when were you in beta? They changed the game on a LARGE SCALE several times, even before Themis.


And finally, Themis is the NA PR company that does advertising and pays the people like Cerest and the GMs. Actually, the GMs are part of Themis as well.


- N

Um, what MMORPG has ever died?

PRE-Ulimtia Online games are still going. For instance, I bought The Realm 7 or 8 years ago and people still play it. Lol Still at the exact same website too http://www.realmserver.com/. And look, Meridian 59 http://meridian59.neardeathstudios.com/ ... still freaking exists! I might even wish those games WOULD die.

Survive? Please. Weaker titles have survived countless Novembers.

Saga of Ryzom is just getting started.

In most MMORPGs that I've played over the past ten years it has been a point of pride for the game, to state exactly how many players there were and average population loads on a per server basis....

Any particular reason why we cannot be told how many other active accounts there are and the average population per server?

As far as surviving WoW and EQ2...even before you get to those you should also take a peak at the other games being released in November, while many folks only play online games there are many more many times over that play other games as well. Time spent on those games is time spent away from Atys, that can make it seem as if the populations are dwindling. Here is a small list of Nov Releases.


November 1, 2004 American McGee Presents Scrapland Enlight
November 1, 2004 Athens 2004 Eidos Interactive
November 1, 2004 Dragon Empires Codemasters
November 1, 2004 Gary Grigsby's World at War Matrix Games
November 1, 2004 Heroes of the Pacific Encore
November 1, 2004 Legacy: Dark Shadows Tri Synergy
November 1, 2004 Polar Express THQ
November 1, 2004 Shadow Vault Strategy First
November 1, 2004 Yu-Gi-Oh! Power of Chaos: Yugi the Destiny Konami
November 2, 2004 Alexander Ubisoft
November 2, 2004 Axis & Allies Atari
November 2, 2004 Cabela's Big Game Hunter: 2005
November 2, 2004 Hot Wheels Stunt Track Challenge THQ
November 2, 2004 I of the Dragon Strategy First
November 2, 2004 Medal of Honor Pacific Assault Director's Edition Electronic Arts
November 2, 2004 Medieval Lords: Build, Defend, Expand O~3 Entertainment
November 2, 2004 Sudden Strike: Resource War CDV
November 2, 2004 Ultima Online: Samurai Empire Electronic Arts
November 4, 2004 Return to Mysterious Island The Adventure Company
November 8, 2004 EverQuest II Sony Online Entertainment
November 8, 2004 EverQuest II Collector's Edition Sony Online Entertainment
November 8, 2004 Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines Activision
November 8, 2004 Will of Steel Tri Synergy
November 9, 2004 American Chopper Activision Value
November 9 2004 Immortal Cities: Children of the Nile Myelin Media
November 9, 2004 Lemony Snicket's A Series of Unfortunate Events Activision
November 9, 2004 Medal of Honor: Pacific Assault Electronic Arts
November 9, 2004 Need for Speed Underground 2 Electronic Arts
November 9, 2004 Space Interceptor: Project Freedom Merscom
November 9, 2004 Zoo Tycoon 2 Microsoft
November 11, 2004 Dungeon Lords DreamCatcher Interactive
November 11, 2004 Painkiller: Battle out of Hell DreamCatcher Interactive
November 12, 2004 Pool Shark 2 Zoo Digital Publishing
November 15, 2004 BreakQuest
November 15, 2004 The Lord of the Rings: The Battle for Middle-earth Electronic Arts
November 22, 2004 World of Warcraft Blizzard
November 16, 2004 CSI: Miami Ubisoft France
November 16, 2004 Forgotten Realms: Demon Stone Atari
November 16, 2004 Half-Life 2 Vivendi Universal
November 16, 2004 Joint Ops: Escalation NovaLogic
November 16, 2004 Prince of Persia: Warrior Within Ubisoft
November 16, 2004 Sentinel: Descendants in Time The Adventure Company November 16, 2004 Sonic Heroes SEGA
November 16, 2004 Torrente O~3 Entertainment
November 20, 2004 X-Plane 8.00 Tri Synergy
November 22, 2004 Sid Meier's Pirates! Atari
November 23, 2004 ER Take-Two Interactive
November 30, 2004 Armies of Exigo Electronic Arts
November 2004 Bad Mojo Redux Got Game Entertainment
November 2004 Nexus - The Jupiter Incident HD Interactive
November 2004 Second Sight Codemasters
November 30, 2004 Shadowbane: Throne of Oblivion Ubisoft
November 2004 The Moment of Silence Digital Jesters


As for Wow, there is quite a bit of content in WoW that many people have not heard about or word simply has not spread concerning it. I won't go into it here, suffice it to say that when you hear people stating its the same old same old, well they have not looked very deeply into it or they are not in closed beta.

Currently WoW is getting roughly 120,000+/- 3k hits a day. The interest in the game is on a level not seen before.

EQ2 while certainly highly anticipated isn't quite on the same scale, still EQ does have a dedicated following. I personally know many a player and guild looking at returning to this next incarnation of EQ.

As for me I've already quit SoR until the patches are released, just gonna give it time and a fair chance in the long run. If the patches are not out and all that they are touted to be by Nov 22, yeah, I'll cancel.

I hope SoR does survive, I for one really enjoyed the time I played it. I will never tell anyone anything bad about the game because I did like it, but after getting into EQ2 beta, I started to realize just how much content that SoR is lacking. Now I'm in no way shape or form trying to say EQ2 is better, because they are 2 different types of MMO's. I will say though that even though they are different types they both have similarities that I feel should have been implemented in the game. Music, while I know a few people out there don't like it, I for one and I know many others feel the game just isn't complete without. This is the first MMO that I have played, (I'm not going to say I've played them all but I have played a few) that didn't have music after it went live. Tasks or quests, while SoR does have a few of these depending on whether you consider them a quest or not I guess is your defination. Decay rates, regardless of how its figured I've read lots of peoples ways of computing it doesn't matter the fact is its too fast as it is and they should've either added in a multiply factor so it would take longer or simply remove it for the time being till they got around to fixing it, since it really doesn't matter at this stage as people are gaining levels and upgrading to higher gear anyway. I for one can't stand running around naked or in my ql 50 stuff because by the time I get a couple sets of armor they are gone within a day or 2 of hunting. I have a few other things, but don't want this to be rank or anything towards ryzom. My only wish was that they would've had some of these things coming in patch 1 and 2 at live, I would really have hated to see what the open beta was like in April, I know some people say wait till they get implemented, (I have tried both WoW and EQ2 and like them both) why would I wait around for those patches to come out and possibly get delayed when I can go over to these and they already have most of these. Like I said I will never say anything bad about SoR, I just simply wish it would've launched with more content and some of the items I feel as a player should've been in it. Anyway thats all. Thanks for listening, this isn't intended as a flame or anything just expressing how I feel