Ryzom

kaetemi wrote:I have the same opinion about the scripting functionalities of the ring, but apparently the CSRs don't.

red undies are "easter egg" type feature (red is #1 in color list, so may be a bug too , scripting functionality in ring however is idiotic file management by nel that makes it possible. no idea what they were thinking when they (devs) added that feature for a networked game. nice when you testing the game, but in live ? just idiotic.
... now, if ring scripting would be documented and made public (by official channels ofcourse , i agree, it would be nice extra feature

kuroari wrote:no idea what kaet was on about in that post above me Oo...

People asking for stuff.

kuroari wrote:i'm sure we can argue a long time about this one but when it comes down to editing scripts to make R2 work better vs spawning gear thats supposed to be very hard to get end-game content..

It's treated almost exactly the same way by the CSRs.

kuroari wrote:are you trying to make the game a better place for everyone or are you making it easier for _YOU_ to do something vs the rest of the populace?

Well, I'm not sure if a q1 armor would make it easier for the person wearing it. Also, I'll just confirm that in my inventory there are no illegal items (really no need to store those useless things in there, waste of bulk).

kuroari wrote:just me or are we -seriously- off topic now? >.>

Not really, as long as you reply on topic, you're still on topic, even if it's not the same topic as the original post.

blaah wrote:scripting functionality in ring however is idiotic file management by nel that makes it possible. no idea what they were thinking when they (devs) added that feature for a networked game. nice when you testing the game, but in live ? just idiotic.

Ehm, no, scripting in ring was originally an intended feature, but due to time limits it was never documented properly. They didn't add the user directory, and more importantily the r2_features_loaded.lua file, by accident.
Basically, the .r2 files your client has, and the data sent to the server when uploading is completely different. The .r2 file contains properties which are parsed by your local lua components into the format required by the server. You can therefore only use what exists on the server (the basic features of the ring and a limited scripting language). What you can do with custom lua components, is simply making it easier to create large events without endless repeated clicking.
You make it sound as it was a very easy task to make it that way, and that it happened by accident. I suggest you look at the ring lua code a bit, and you will notice how much work has been put in designing and creating such system which allows this.
And as I said earlier, the only reason why it wasn't officially 'released', is because there were not enough resources to fully document it, since most people (like you) wouldn't understand how it works anyway.

As an extra I'll say this: There are currently no more known security issues with the scripting features of the ring.

In fact, exploits mentioned in this thread are bugs in features which have actually been officially released since the release of the ring.

i do believe Kaetmi has 'handed it to us' all

Kudos to the crazy fyros.

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servers are back, things are working as before... or are they?
some things have changed IG, (still stupid secrets known to a select few players for some reason) and i can't fathom why a certain few specific things have been changed, or by whom... BUT, i'm totally hopefull the game will continue. everyone that is planning on continuing to play after the servers "come back" , you might as well come join us now

dig dig dig...

BUT, i'm totally hopefull the game will continue. everyone that is planning on continuing to play after the servers "come back" , you might as well come join us now

Yes, why wait, come back and enjoy the game. If the game is bought by another company, it is possible they will shut it down to clean house, then bring it back up. So come back now...

kaetemi wrote:And as I said earlier, the only reason why it wasn't officially 'released', is because there were not enough resources to fully document it, since most people (like you) wouldn't understand how it works anyway.

politely put "Assumption -- the Mother of All Screw Ups".
you assume that i dont understand it (if it's in french, then your right ofcourse). well, i did add atys-date to ingame..... in early 2006 . just because it's "working as intended", does not mean it's allowed (officially unreleased == not allowed yet)

For all you potential bidders out there.... (hopes they actually reading the forums)... the BEST thing that could happen to Ryzom when it officially operates again... WIPE ALL CHARACTERS away and force everyone to start again...

No fake/spawned gear... no 60x AeN armour from the days it could be dropped with 3 peeps.....etc etc

Oh... and from the RING point of view..... all objects received while in the ring.... STAY in the ring


Cheerio

wakatack69 wrote:For all you potential bidders out there.... (hopes they actually reading the forums)... the BEST thing that could happen to Ryzom when it officially operates again... WIPE ALL CHARACTERS away and force everyone to start again...

No fake/spawned gear... no 60x AeN armour from the days it could be dropped with 3 peeps.....etc etc

Oh... and from the RING point of view..... all objects received while in the ring.... STAY in the ring


Cheerio

Aslong as i can be sure no-one will steal my name, sure id dig that

Leave ring as is, just fix the one imba bug.

don't agree with the above statement, a character wipe, removes everything remember including your precious npc armours, believe it or not the old NPCs were still a challenge, bar Aen. Lixie was hard, only a few sets survive to this day,the game just isnt about NPC clothes, what about all the champion, exterminator,elder of atys titles that would be lost, thelevels, the rare crafted items, the rare npc bought items from ep 1 and 2, the irreplacable items that were given as gifts from homins that no longer roam atys.

on a different forum Kaetemi states that if the game goes open source he would "fix the ring", how can he do that without finding out the problems with it? and i bet if the game is bought out by a company he'l document all of his findings and submit it to the new owners.

Think of it as exploiting if you want, I see it as Kaetemi spending his own time helping to progress the ring in a possitive direction, ie, fix it.

When he came on here and gave us all knowledge of how to add titles to NPCs in the ring for example, no-one jeered "eek exploit", when he finds bugs however that lets people spawn items, "eek he's exploiting!!"