Ryzom

Just don´t let it come to it and stop blameing the Devs for your own misbehaviour. Just because my Dad gave me a softairgun once, I didn´t go around shooting birds.
I hate it when people blame others for their own ignorance and their own lack of imagination.
Go on play Capture the flag, ignore the rich backgrund, ignore what could be done by yourself. Keep on crying for your own inability to get on your feet and do something else then PvP.

I´ve recently added a german statemant in to siganture, as a last point to those who do. I´ll translate it for you:

"[highlight]RP is, if you do it just because.[/highlight]"

Acridiel

P.S.: Now you can flame me for experssing my views. Have fun.
I love to be hated because I don´t run with the crowd.

norvic wrote:The Game has become very Polarised but I see no way to return to the game we once had without a major re-think by GF.

I like some PvP it can be fun but its not the direction I wanted to see.

May not be so difficult to change the focus:

- Send some invasion kitins into the 4 lands and capitals.

- Few NPC/GM with news that the kitin threat is growing and we all gonna die...

- Open the Kitin liar and get waves of them going out.

- Open more OP for Neutrals (was supposed to be possible to take them by negociation only....)

Too many OP would reduce PVP as all would own one, and the kitin threat would keep ppl busy

acridiel wrote:Just don´t let it come to it and stop blameing the Devs for your own misbehaviour. Just because my Dad gave me a softairgun once, I didn´t go around shooting birds.

No one blames the devs, and your example perfectly shows who to blame.

I agree with Crytos. It is time for a new generation of players, those that were born into a world of chaos and war.

thlau wrote:No one blames the devs, and your example perfectly shows who to blame.

I agree with Crytos. It is time for a new generation of players, those that were born into a world of chaos and war.

Now let me get this straight.
Are you realy suggesting that, because I don´t PvP I´m to blame for more and more people doing it? What kind of logic is that???
Are you saying, because I like to roleplay and try to stay out of the Conflicts between Homins and Players alike that have arisen over the PvP contend, out of personal preference, I and those like me are to blame for the Community getting less and less friendly on these boards and more and more conflict oriented?
Are we to blame that more and more new Players get recruited into large guilds that use them as cannon fodder for their wars?
Are we to blame that these new people get drafted into Service, without even getting a chance to see that there are other things to do on Atys?
Are we to blame for most of these new Players joining the "winning side"?
Are we to blame for this stupid war over the Outposts on each Server?

Well, you can blame the pacifists of this Earth for Hiroshima then.

I´m not even saying that PvP is a bad thing, it´s part of this game as it is part of any other game. I try and tolerate the PvP crowd.
They can have their fun. But I hate it when they don´t let us have our fun, starting with strange accusations like this.

Bye
Acridiel

acridiel wrote: They can have their fun. But I hate it when they don´t let us have our fun, starting with strange accusations like this.

Bye
Acridiel

QFE.
As a EXTREMELY PvP loving person, even I have to say that we have absolutely no right to try to exclude a player type from fun to get our kicks.
Im all for pvp, as long as its consentual.

I dont wanna FORCE it on anyone (exeption being PR).
And I think you have yet to see me force it on anyone..

Like I said in the thread, lets do our best to find a way to get crafters/foragers and neutrals into this in the best possible way.

And thank you for the good post Acridiel.

@Acridiel

Stick, wrong end methinks

norvic wrote:@Acridiel

Stick, wrong end methinks

Huh? I´m not familiar with this expression, sorry?

Acridiel

thlau wrote: I agree with Crytos. It is time for a new generation of players, those that were born into a world of chaos and war.

Comming to think of this, of course a world torn by war will breed many soldiers,
but it will too breed pacifists and those who will fight for their true believes and not just because someone told them to.

Mostly those are a minority, yes, history shows us that in our real world.
But someday, some far of day, people will get tired of fighting, and then
those who still hold on to the idea of peace will have their hour of glory

Now, how is that as a statement on the "situation" of the Game?

A game is what you make of it.
Nothing more, nothing less.

Even in a Game, wich is alegedly "built with PvP in mind", of wich I´m absolutely not convinced btw., someday people will tire of the same old
Hack&Slay. Even with those Ideas realy nice Tigrus offerd.
Some day, if these were to be implemented, they too will be old and worn out. The cry for "new contend" will rise again.
What then? Another variation of the same old "I Pwn you. - No you don´t - Do too." ?

Well, if you like it this way, then ok, here you go on matching your skill against another player. No problem with that. I tend to view it a bit like
football in this regard, it too is PvP, isn´t it? I watch it, tried it once,
didn´t like it and now stay out of it.

Saying one side is responsible for the "downfall" of the game is irrational and childish, so is saying the devs did it.
Again, a game is what you as a person make of it.

If you are given a heap of clay, you could either transform it into a work of art, with a little consideration and lots of work, or you could bash it with your fist, untill it looks like an ashtray and claim this to be your "art".

To realy create something of it, you have to work, if you don´t want that and don´t want others to do it...

Well, happy bashing then.

Acridiel

Just saying you seem to have misunderstood what myself and I beleive Trini were trying to say.

Kudos to those such as yourself who have the heart to hold onto the story/saga and stay out of the faction scrapping.

I myself am a semi-rp player who enjoyed the storyline but is also not adverse to some PvP where it fitted but PvP for PvPs sake seem to be becomming dominant.

Sorry for the slight de-rail LT.

Please re-read my original post further up Acridiel, if it still makes no sense throw me a PM.

tigrus wrote:QFE.
As a EXTREMELY PvP loving person, even I have to say that we have absolutely no right to try to exclude a player type from fun to get our kicks.
Im all for pvp, as long as its consentual.

I dont wanna FORCE it on anyone (exeption being PR).
And I think you have yet to see me force it on anyone.

I can attest to that!

you were yacking for hours before you finally nuked me.