Level cap on Starter Island

[ajsuk]

So you have no alternative then...

And Jacko old boy, keep it up, with a little more work we might get rid.

[dakhound]

So you have no alternative then...

And Jacko old boy, keep up it up, will a little more work we might get rid.

aye would have gone kara anyways, your all cheap gits

....btw it seems 1 month at a time pay by cash is your only option, unfortunately nevrax did not allow for your individual circumstances and have therefore probably lost a customer. However I may add a majority of people have either a debit card or credit card (or at least access to one) and this is probably the most cost effective method of subscription for them.

I hope you find your free unlimited game and wish you the best for the future.

[kattan]

Go on then what game.

I wasn't going to state it, but if you insist, it is Anarchy Online. You can download the client directly from Funcom and play the classic game sans expansions for free. That is 200 levels of possible game play.

I'm happy to see an incraese in the paying population yes, look no offense but I'm a pretty nice guy ingame and I go out of my way to help those, but only those prepared to help themselves. Still I fail to see how lowering the level cap really kills the game that much, the only people who've really moaned so far are ones who haven't paid at all. You can call me a troll if you want or say I'm mean but I'm just being honest right, anyone who can't get a feel for the gameplay in a possible 84 levels and wont pay a few pounds/dollars/euros to check it out well tough.

I'm not stating that they shouldn't have capped it, or restricted it in some way or another, but as it sits, 21 doesn't give much of a feel for the game, maybe the blame there could be laid on the massive amounts of XP from the tutorial missions, am unsure.

Not to mention the island isn't really representative of the mainland anyway.

As above, maybe the solution to both parts would be to remove the massive XP reward from the tutorial missions. That would solve both the issue of the cap being reach too soon, and make it more representative of what players could expect from mainland missions.

And as already stated there's other ways than credit card to pay, I was just using it as a figure of speech and if people can't find 10 pound etc to test a game for a month then really you shouldn't be there in the first place.

As I have previously stated in other posts, I am well aware of the one option open to me, and I won't take it, at least not on a month to month basis. if it was offered for 3/6/12 months I would gladly go that route.

I tried paybycash last year, from the time I put in for the subscription to the time it was actually activated was approximately 2 weeks, by this time, I had swung back to playing my other game more frequently and the 1 month subscription was barely used. 5 days before it was to run out, I got an e-mail informing that it was time to go through the process again. I let the account go as even if I had been playing, this still would have left the account locked for over a week.

To clear things up a bit, I am currently posting from that account that has been reactivated, but I also have a Trial account which I have been trying to get access to a method of payment other than paybycash to activate a subscription on.

For some people (like myself) it isn't a matter of not having the funds, or not wanting to part with the funds, it is a matter of not having a credit or even debit card, and not willing to deal with paybycash on a month to month basis.

[kostika]

Is the same problem at least for me, still have to have approval for a debit card, and am unlikely to get that.

If by approval you mean get a bank account and ask for one, then yes. Sorry but unless the US has made some very major changes in how they work, getting a debit card isn't a hard thing.

(I'm assuming you're in the US, but getting one in the UK is just as easy. And somehow I doubt it's any more difficult in other countries either)

[kattan]

And Jacko old boy, keep it up, with a little more work we might get rid.

Just proved my point, there are those of you that don't want to see the population of Ryzom grow, and you Sir are obviously one of them.

I hope you find your free unlimited game and wish you the best for the future.

I never said that was what I was looking for, or what I wanted, although you that obviously don't want growth keep trying to push people in that direction.

Keep up the good work, I imagine you may drive away more than just one person this way.

[kattan]

If by approval you mean get a bank account and ask for one, then yes. Sorry but unless the US has made some very major changes in how they work, getting a debit card isn't a hard thing.

Where in my post did I ever state that I was from the U.S. Not in the UK either, have already chatted with my bank on this very issue, and have been informed because of my poor credit rating (caused by major spending indiscretions in my past) I am extremely unlikely to get one. Maybe my country is different, maybe it is just my bank.

[kostika]

Where in my post did I ever state that I was from the U.S. You shouldn't assume things.

See my edit.

[kattan]

See my edit.

Sorry, saw it after the post

[danlufan]

Ah I see, was sure someone was talking about getting it in universe the other day. My mistake still they get a month to try for what a few quid its not the biggest loss, I spend more at macdonalds for a snack.

if you buy from the box you get a full month, i paid like £2.50 for the boxed game ages ago, and i got a month in with that.

[johntf]

I wasn't going to state it, but if you insist, it is Anarchy Online. You can download the client directly from Funcom and play the classic game sans expansions for free. That is 200 levels of possible game play.

Well yes i did insist and wow AO you can play a game for free thats as old as the hills not to mention how many froobs pay ? Not to mention I tried it found it dated and boring the community full of the kind of people a totally free trial attracts.

I'm not stating that they shouldn't have capped it, or restricted it in some way or another, but as it sits, 21 doesn't give much of a feel for the game, maybe the blame there could be laid on the massive amounts of XP from the tutorial missions, am unsure.

I already stated on another post that perhaps a slightly higher cap or a time restriction activaited after a certain level might work, but then again lets look at it this way :

- Neither of us has any experience running a major mmorpg or the company behind it.

- We don't have the companies figures and demographic information infront of us to analyse.

- I didnt study business at uni or college, assuming you didn't either.

- Consistantly for years despite a tiny development team the company has managed to achieve consistant very high ratings and respect, do you think they achieve this through making ill informed or bad decisions ?

As above, maybe the solution to both parts would be to remove the massive XP reward from the tutorial missions. That would solve both the issue of the cap being reach too soon, and make it more representative of what players could expect from mainland missions.



As I have previously stated in other posts, I am well aware of the one option open to me, and I won't take it, at least not on a month to month basis. if it was offered for 3/6/12 months I would gladly go that route.

Your confusing me here, your saying you refuse to pay for one month to test the game ? you'd rather pay for 3/4/12 months in one go and risk not liking the game ???[/quote]

I tried paybycash last year, from the time I put in for the subscription to the time it was actually activated was approximately 2 weeks, by this time, I had swung back to playing my other game more frequently and the 1 month subscription was barely used. 5 days before it was to run out, I got an e-mail informing that it was time to go through the process again. I let the account go as even if I had been playing, this still would have left the account locked for over a week.

To clear things up a bit, I am currently posting from that account that has been reactivated, but I also have a Trial account which I have been trying to get access to a method of payment other than paybycash to activate a subscription on.

For some people (like myself) it isn't a matter of not having the funds, or not wanting to part with the funds, it is a matter of not having a credit or even debit card, and not willing to deal with paybycash on a month to month basis.[/QUOTE]

Righty its because you've a bad credit rating, is that the ryzom communities or development team's fault ?

You know what your statements here prove, that you are not that willing not capable at all of paying for ryzom, so then I wonder why are you upset that the trial is being shortened. Elementary my dear watson ?

I'll tell you this, I don't have a credit or debit card its a hangover I haven't bothered to fix from my uni days and I think HSBC have some kind of contract hit on me, I don't trust pay by cash either. You know to know how I managed to pay.

I went up to one of my friends (really I have at least one in real life ) and said "Chris you've a debit card don't you ?, Can you do me a really big favour and pay for a mmorpg online for me if I give you the cash in advance".

And lo my problem was solved.


And one last thing you know what I love about the ryzom community is ? You get out what you put in basicly, your complaining some of us are monsters for saying the level cap isn't such a bad thing just because we can pay. Well I'm sorry that doesn't make us bad people at all. And perhaps you'd get a better response if your complaint wasn't mainly based on the fact that its because you can't pay because of your own fault. Nothing to do with your years of experience in business or the mmorpg sector and your intuitive knowlege despite not being able to see all of the companies financial or demographic date etc allows you to know that this is a serious mistake. Or the fact that the game survived on a much worsh trial and island system before and will survive this I'm sure.

That and you'e a MASSIVE chip on your shoulder and you think the only reason no one wants to agree with you is that you are new and people like that irk me more than you will ever understand.