Ryzom

I did not read through all of the replies. But as a SOR newbie, who does not currently have a lot of free time, I very much like the unlimited play time in the trial. To address some of the concerns, I think it would be wise as part of the trial to make it so that after you move to the mainland, the clock starts clicking and you have 14 calendar days of game play not to exceed 12 hours of actual play time. For myself 12 hours of play time would equate to 3 nights, more than enough to know if this is the MMO for me.

beowulf1 wrote:If I may, being fresh from noob Island and after playing games with horrible communities, Like SWG & CoH. I have to disagree with this post and the sentiments to the Nth degree.

Noob Island and the trial is what made me pay for the game and fall in complete awe with Atys and Ryzom. It let me explore not only some of the seasons and topography of Atys, but also explore each and every race and some of their beliefs and structure. It also taught me how to play the darn game. Despite what some of the older vets are saying here, Ryzom still has a steep learning curve compared to WoW,CoH,SWG.
I will admit that there have been several 1337 people log onto noob island and just leave after an hour because they can't handle having to use their brain and fend for themselves. Yes, like another vet stated above, I have been challenged to PvP by noobs for no reason what-so-ever. I just ignore it and move about my business. I have also witnessed a couple of Noobs log on and start bashing the game and saying things like " oh this is ghey" "you can't jump in this game ? how #$&^*$&$# lame!" Only for the community to invite them to leave. I for one spotted a noob log in with the name "f@%ot". I did a petition immediately and within 5 minutes had a tell from a GM thanking me for the quick eye and for doing the right thing.

To me as a new player and customer, I understand your concerns. I understand your apprehensions about the new drive for a larger player base. However, I honestly feel that if you as the veterans of SoR, continue to behave and treat us noobs with the respect, dignity and the sincerity that you show us everyday the factors that you fear will not only be culled but the community greatness will spread.

I think the above post about nails my opinion of NPE on the head. The good will come through to the mainland and the bad will be culled...as long as we continue to pay attention to and lend support for our new blood.

Let us also not forget that this is a commercial venture and if those whom own this get to the point of it no longer being worth the "effort vs income" then it all goes away.

Expanding the player base is a manditory part of survival. As long as the main body of players pay attention to the new blood comming up the ranks then all will be well.

We should also remember that the line seperating "purist" from authoritarian is nearly non-existant and watch ourselves against demanding too strict a compliance to personal views on the who, when, how and why of things in game.

Except region spammers of course. We can all rant against them. I mean, region spammers are da eeveel!!

I just downloaded the trial and after reading about this game, my first thought was EQ2.

Now half a year ago i played EQ2 on the trial island and it was quite an amazing experiance i haveto admit. The game just seemed really good and i heard so much good stuff about it. After playing for a few weeks on the trial island i went and bought the game. When i got off the island i saw the "real" world and it was such a big dissapointment, it was nothing like the trial island. It was boring, the quests were boring and there was no feeling in the world at all, it was like being locked up in a jar. I never played EQ2 more than a month and the game was not for me obviously. The grouping was very boring and bad. But enough of EQ2!

Ive played WoW for almost a year, leveled countless of chars to 60 and i like to PvP. The reason ive left WoW now and then over the year is because everytime i PvP in the battlegrounds i end up fighting fully decked epic wearing people. Myself im barely wearing a set of blue armor along with some PvP armor. For those who havent played WoW, the gear pretty much makes the player. My rogue in my current gear wont survive the cheapshot+kidneyshot sequence (basicly around 4-7 seconds of being stunned) vs a tier 2 rogue. But enough of my WoW whine lol! back to Ryzom.

How "different" is the world of ryzom outside the trial island?. How much do we see of ryzom while being on the trial island?. Like in EQ2 you only saw the best of everything on the trial island, the quests were great, everything was just great (to hook people up, and it worked). So of course im very sceptical towards ryzom for doing the exact same thing.

I might add before i played WoW and EQ2 i played DAoC (dark age of camelot) for 5 years. Ive been in AC2 (a month), SWG (a month), Planetside (3 months). Games ive bought and played over the years. Id probably still be in planetside if it werent for my computer, planetside is a fast pace action fps that gives my computer a good beating with the "you dont have an uber computer"-stick.

Uhm, to answer that, you´ll better go back a page or two and read a few of the posts here
We´d only end up repeating ourselves again and again if we were to answer each similar post like yours.
And that would be pretty boring, don´t ya think
And I won´t quote or copy paste a post here, just go and have a look

Acridiel

huldu101 wrote:I just downloaded the trial and after reading about this game, my first thought was EQ2.

Now half a year ago i played EQ2 on the trial island and it was quite an amazing experiance i haveto admit. The game just seemed really good and i heard so much good stuff about it. After playing for a few weeks on the trial island i went and bought the game. When i got off the island i saw the "real" world and it was such a big dissapointment,...........

EXACTLY! eq2 was a massive dissapointment i to was sucked in by the trial

i think they have got the free trial spot on in SoR, theres no time limit i can poodle around an island and get my skills to a reasonable level (eq2 was low level) and really get into the game before venturing out the whole system is brilliant every char is an island not pigeon holed into a category

personally i think this game needs more publicity! i have played nearly all of the recent mmorpgs and had never heard of it! found it by chance reading a review

whopping download nearly put a few people off but i talked em round and they really like it to.

I'm a trial member, and I think the unlimited offer is pretty nifty. I don't believe we are mislead in any way. As someone interested in taking SOR to trial, I'm responsible for inquiring about the pay version and understanding the differences. It's not that difficult. Pop on the boards here and the real game is there for the reading. I'm someone who enjoys purpose based (ie: missions/w rewards and mob dropped loot) game play, so I'm very unlikely to be paying to play. Between the trial and these boards I think I'm able to make an informed decision.

(Nudge: Paying doesn't force you to go to the mainland, you can pay to play and still play on Ruins of Silan )

I am also new to this game, I am loving the trial period on the Islands. I will say though that I find all the talk on these boards of the right people disheartening to say the least. I am a person who god forbid likes as someone chose to call it "a little hand holding". which I choose to call direction and focus. Now does this make me the wrong type of player for this game, I think not but that is my opinion only.
The community is great and the atmosphere of the game itself is quiet beautifull. I don't consider myself stupid by any means but I am having a hard time grasping certain parts of the game such as the stanzas and how to manipulate them to make better spells and skills, does this mean I am to inferior to play the game, I hope not. I will catch on just not as fast as some my old brain is a liitle low on ram and the hard drive is pretty full so bear with me as I learn the mechanics of the game.
Finally on a personnal note I play WoW regularly also, while I will say there is a large majority of bad apples in the community I can also say I have made some really good friends, and as for the game itself it may be a little more spoonfed to the player than others but it's a good game so don't bash it, eaither you like it or you don't.
Its like this, If I want some fast action and instant gratification I play WoW, If I want a deeper more complex experience I play Ryzom.
Night all hope to see you all ingame! In Game Name : Foraza

You're right Foraza. WoW is very intuitive for a new player which is a good thing (and I had a great guild there, so bad apples didn't bother me too much). I think many vets forget how confusing it can be to edit your first stanza, or track/prospect/extract the first time. You should know how many silly errors I made in the game. Luckily I liked the game and Ryzom is very forgiving for trial-and-error playing as you can't destroy your character build - and people really enjoy answering questions here.

Having played SOR now for two months, on the old starter island then NPE and now the mainland i can honestly say the lack of mission/quests in the mainland has not been a problem. The game has so much depth that i'm thinking about the next craft item or were shall i explore next and not how much XP would i get from mission XYZ.

Neverax do need to increase sales to fund ongoing dev/R2 etc and an unlimited trial is a good thing.

I dont think the long term players have to worry that the community will be ruined, the depth of the game play will put off the "bad apple" types.

The NPE experience is very good at teaching the basics for life on the mainland, maybe Neverax just need to word the final teleport to mainland txt with clearer statements, like life will be hard young homin, are you sure you wish to leave the relative safety of the NPE island.