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Re: Freedom for the void: I said we would be back!

Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 5:24 pm
by 19891989
xeraphim wrote:oh dear
19891989

you have clearly marked yourself as a small minded trouble stirrer here..
you comments are nothing but inflammatory rubbish.

hiding behind a number is easy..

If you want to flame at least have the decency to let people know who you are. then we can know to avoid you ingame a well as on the forums.

No Xera i just say what 50% (maybe more) of players think about him (kye).

Re: Freedom for the void: I said we would be back!

Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 5:30 pm
by xeraphim
19891989 wrote:No Xera i just say what 50% (maybe more) of players think about him.
that doesn't make sense..
Is that a direct attack on me?

Infact dont answer that..

Souls please close this thread it has gone way off topic due to our freind here.. and i have no time for mr numbers and his negitve attitude.

Re: Freedom for the void: I said we would be back!

Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 5:36 pm
by dbritt
What i said heavyn was that my particular battle was not against the karavan in general.. it was against the kara guilds occupying Sacred Zorai / kami lands..
Therfore the 2 sides are not Karavan and Kami they are those who believe that they should not be there and those that belive they should.

Thus it is a battle of ideals..

Kami / Karavanism is like a religion... not a nation.. there are extreme factions within a religions that do not agree with one another and thus go on to fight one another..

Your example of the war in iraq would be more accurate if you perhaps used the example of a muslim member of the american / allied forces...

Things are indeed very rarely black and white.
We can go two ways here, I'll pick one for now..

Brought up one point...'sacred Kami lands' (IC) I'm not Kami, I could care less.(OOC) When you say it's a battle of ideals, then you need to see that what your really talking about is a battle of Civilizations..you said it yourself...Zorai/Fryos/Matis/Lakes.

Oh, and two questions here I'd like ANYONE to answer relating to 'the battle of ideals' and keeping OPs to their native lands.

1) At what point did PF EVER get labeled a Matis guild....we are <50% matis, just so you know. So can our Zorai members occupy Zo-Kian?

2) Someone pleeease tell me when and where, or either, that a "Kami" guild has come to defend an OP in Matis from an attack by a Kami guild...so your statement about 'ideals' is relative only to you. Borello Gorge has been attacked 6 times since OPs came out, I've never seen one person that I would call a friend and a Kami there to defend us. But I still had fun.

things are very rarely black and white, but I do look at both pages

H

Re: Freedom for the void: I said we would be back!

Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 5:44 pm
by aude03
xeraphim wrote:that doesn't make sense..
Is that a direct attack on me?

Infact dont answer that..

Souls please close this thread it has gone way off topic due to our freind here.. and i have no time for mr numbers and his negitve attitude.
Mr 19891989 is Poseidon, ex CoM, moved on french server (just click on his name and "view more posts about 19891989...) :)

Re: Freedom for the void: I said we would be back!

Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 5:45 pm
by blaah
grimjim wrote:Simple solution, everyone withdraw to their native lands only and let the native guilds occupy their own lands.

Then everybody can just get along!
not exactly ;-) ... there isn't enought outposts for every guild, so then someone will start a thread how tryker will attack tryker, etc... and another starts a thread how he cant attack any op just for "tryker against tryker" reason.

on subject... Q: does void op's change hands voluntarely (as talked in months) ?... or just to get threshold higher ? ;-)
(timing is really bad lol)

Re: Freedom for the void: I said we would be back!

Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 5:46 pm
by 19891989
xeraphim wrote:that doesn't make sense..
Is that a direct attack on me?

Infact dont answer that..

Souls please close this thread it has gone way off topic due to our freind here.. and i have no time for mr numbers and his negitve attitude.

oh dear
Xeraphim

If i have a negative attitude maybe cause of people like kye snake groom scarazy Geniastrid and some others try to push people play how THEY like to play and if we or not agree whit them we are all idiot.

Re: Freedom for the void: I said we would be back!

Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 5:48 pm
by 19891989
aude03 wrote:Mr 19891989 is Poseidon, ex CoM, moved on french server (just click on his name and "view more posts about 19891989...) :)

I moved from French server to here btw, look at date

Re: Freedom for the void: I said we would be back!

Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 5:50 pm
by xeraphim
dbritt wrote:We can go two ways here, I'll pick one for now..

Brought up one point...'sacred Kami lands' (IC) I'm not Kami, I could care less.(OOC) When you say it's a battle of ideals, then you need to see that what your really talking about is a battle of Civilizations..you said it yourself...Zorai/Fryos/Matis/Lakes.

Oh, and two questions here I'd like ANYONE to answer relating to 'the battle of ideals' and keeping OPs to their native lands.

1) At what point did PF EVER get labeled a Matis guild....we are <50% matis, just so you know. So can our Zorai members occupy Zo-Kian?

2) Someone pleeease tell me when and where, or either, that a "Kami" guild has come to defend an OP in Matis from an attack by a Kami guild...so your statement about 'ideals' is relative only to you. Borello Gorge has been attacked 6 times since OPs came out, I've never seen one person that I would call a friend and a Kami there to defend us. But I still had fun.

things are very rarely black and white, but I do look at both pages

H
Nowhere did I say that you were a Matis guild did I?
I was refering to the battle for the tryker lands..
I agree with some of your points .. but disagree with others..
I repect your oppinion.. its just not my own.
Personally i am inclined to agree with Kye.. freindship and personal beliefs trancend Faction and race.
as for Kami defending you guys... do you really need it?? lol might be a bit of an unbalanced battle if we did.. I think that joining a fight in order to make the battle enjoyable and at least somewhat balanced is as much as a compliment as helping you defend in some circumstances.

I am glad that you we can have this discussion without inflammatory comments such as above.. respect for that :)

Re: Freedom for the void: I said we would be back!

Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 5:52 pm
by xeraphim
19891989 wrote:I moved from French server to here btw, look at date
i know... Altheas mean anything?

Re: Freedom for the void: I said we would be back!

Posted: Wed May 17, 2006 5:55 pm
by aude03
19891989 wrote:oh dear
Xeraphim

If i have a negative attitude maybe cause of people like kye snake groom scarazy Geniastrid and some others try to push people play how THEY like to play and if we or not agree whit them we are all idiot.
Humm...when did i say people not playing like me are idiot ?

and sorry for the aniro/arispotle/aniro...thing, just checked quick who was 19891989, and read the other posts quicker, without looking at dates.