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Re: So.. where is Episode 2 ?
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 11:37 am
by morzyr
Oh fun... Another whole weekend wasted with a speech event.
http://www.ryzom.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18695
God this is dragging out ain't it, but no big suprise there.
I need to stop getting to excited about new things....
Could they not at least started abit?
Re: So.. where is Episode 2 ?
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 11:54 am
by grimjim
morzyr wrote:Oh fun... Another whole weekend wasted with a speech event.
http://www.ryzom.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18695
God this is dragging out ain't it, but no big suprise there.
I need to stop getting to excited about new things....
Could they not at least started abit?
These are parts of whatever is going on.
Quit yer foul whining!
Re: So.. where is Episode 2 ?
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 12:00 pm
by sx4rlet
morzyr wrote:Oh fun... Another whole weekend wasted with a speech event.
http://www.ryzom.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18695
God this is dragging out ain't it, but no big suprise there.
I need to stop getting to excited about new things....
Could they not at least started abit?
Uhm... you don't have to play the game, you know...
Re: So.. where is Episode 2 ?
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 12:14 pm
by micrix
morzyr wrote:Oh fun... Another whole weekend wasted with a speech event.
http://www.ryzom.com/forum/showthread.php?t=18695
God this is dragging out ain't it, but no big suprise there.
I need to stop getting to excited about new things....
Could they not at least started abit?
You never know. As soon as we kown what they need us for, they have to introduce the Valor things. Maybe not tonight, but probably on saturday. Well, maybe. Dont want to make you excited again

Re: So.. where is Episode 2 ?
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 12:58 pm
by marct
sasaj wrote:6 players. From the same guild. In the same team. In FvF zone.
3 members can't heal other 3. I don't see any "improving on the old PvP system", only spoiling my gaming time. Thx for trying tho, in another year time game may be out of beta.
I really think you should understand the game... If you really are that close and all, why don't you go have some fun and get all of your fames aligned together. It is only the Kami/Karavan that is different, and it is very hard to see in-game how Kami and Karavan loyalists would get along to the degree we do anyway.
Think of it as your higher power not allowing you to heal them.
Noin.
Re: So.. where is Episode 2 ?
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 1:08 pm
by sasaj
marct wrote:I really think you should understand the game... If you really are that close and all, why don't you go have some fun and get all of your fames aligned together. It is only the Kami/Karavan that is different, and it is very hard to see in-game how Kami and Karavan loyalists would get along to the degree we do anyway.
Changing fame is not a problem. I may be on both sides in next few months, depends on storyline. I'm not talking about that. I wish that FvF is event/story related and not static on 2 places without any reason.
marct wrote:Think of it as your higher power not allowing you to heal them.
That's option.
Re: So.. where is Episode 2 ?
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2005 4:43 pm
by morzyr
micrix wrote:You never know. As soon as we kown what they need us for, they have to introduce the Valor things. Maybe not tonight, but probably on saturday. Well, maybe. Dont want to make you excited again
Gah... now you done it... now i need to listen to it all and get even more excited

Re: So.. where is Episode 2 ?
Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 4:14 pm
by svayvti
Okay Jessica, you're taking a beating in the forums, the game is taking a beating in subscriptions, and the non-PvPers are taking a beating in their fun.
Jessica Mulligan wrote:We're doing our best to avoid the "must take part in PvP to participate" syndrome. We don't much like the idea of non-consensual PvP, even sideways like that.
You don't have to join in the PvP, but if you want access to the unique stuff at Outposts, you will probably have to use some diplomacy. There are open avenues for both paths here. We'll be very interested in seeing comments on this, once it goes into open testing on the ATS.
I know this was said about Outposts... but how is it going to be any more true than for EP2 which is entirely for PvPers and excludes non-PvPers?
I say again: We're not turning this into a PvP-only game.
Note this, also: if war comes, you don't have to participate if you don't want to. There will always be non-storyline content
(bolding mine)
*Cough* Episode 2 *Cough*
You seem to have already done that by excluding non-PvPers from the first major dynamic storyline content to the game since launch.
Where is this non-storyline war content for Episode 2? How is it planned for Outposts?
I know this is going to sound mean, but it is really just an honest opinion shared by many. Episode 2 and the updates on Outposts are making you sound dishonest and it appears that mandatory PvP has been the plan for new content for quite some time.
I want to give you a fair chance and encourage rebuttal to save the non-PvPer subscriptions to this game.
Re: So.. where is Episode 2 ?
Posted: Sat Oct 22, 2005 4:41 pm
by grimjim
marct wrote:I really think you should understand the game... If you really are that close and all, why don't you go have some fun and get all of your fames aligned together. It is only the Kami/Karavan that is different, and it is very hard to see in-game how Kami and Karavan loyalists would get along to the degree we do anyway.
Think of it as your higher power not allowing you to heal them.
Noin.
BEcause you can hold to a faith without being a fanatic?
There can be higher loyalties than to the invisible friends?
Because the lore and background puts us in a time of peace and cooperation up to now?
Because of the greater enemy the Kitin?
BEcause of the example of Force of Fraternity?
Many reasons, the same way being a Catholic doesn't make you a member of the inquisition.
If magic came from a higher power the Karavan wouldn't be able to use it.