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iwojimmy wrote:Dont blindly follow ideaology, remember the Karavan came here to help us..

No they came to strip mine it. Ever occur to you that the impoverished planet homin's came here from might once have been as beautiful as Atys? That Riveit's fantasy planet might actually be the same one? That the reason it became impoverished is because the Karavan bled it dry? Then tricked us into coming here?

Perhaps we have been tricked all along by them? Perhaps somewhere in the lost homin lore lies the truth. That we keep being moved from planet to planet in order to strip mine it for the Karavan. Perhaps their plans went awry on Atys when they found the Kitin and the Kami here.

This also could be hearsay but at least it isn't a pipe dream about a false goddess. At least it has SOME basis in fact!

philu wrote:No they came to strip mine it.

Agreed.

You are backwards who think the Kami are trying to sell you something. Why would they try to convince you of something that is the truth? It's only selling if it's false. They're variety is like the races of Atys, they're all the same inside, like you and I. You just need to realize what I do. The Karavan are clearly full of it. They don't belong here. Look around you.

philu wrote:No they came to strip mine it.
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This also could be hearsay but at least it isn't a pipe dream about a false goddess. At least it has SOME basis in fact!

ahh, could you please point out where in the Lore it tells us that the Karavan are interested in mining ?

iwojimmy wrote:ahh, could you please point out where in the Lore it tells us that the Karavan are interested in mining ?

I know it's there somewhere...Someone with a little more initiative is going to have to find it though.

iwojimmy wrote:ahh, could you please point out where in the Lore it tells us that the Karavan are interested in mining ?

a) in the bit you quoted you 'snipped' the bit that the "SOME basis in fact" was referring to and hence took my statement out of context.

b) I was using the two words together "strip mine" as in bleed dry. See here. Specifically:

invading creatures come from afar to steal our resources

There have been other examples (which I can't be bothered to find either ) where the Karavan have promoted over extraction of resources.

More here

By gathering raw materials for the Karavan, you will be guilty of raping the planet we have been made to cherish. The Karavan are responsible for the gradual depletion of resources and environmental damage.

Hmm, I wonder what kind of Jewels I could make with these eyes...

thosholm wrote:Hmm, I wonder what kiond of Jewels I could make with these eyes...

Hmmm probably very sparkly ones, but useless junk all the same.


Interesting to note that Kami is stood in Matis. Is that hole the one in Yrkanis near the Karavan TP?

philu wrote:Interesting to note that Kami is stood in Matis. Is that hole the one in Yrkanis near the Karavan TP?

The Kami, being protectors of Atys, are everywhere. Even though the haughty Matis are ignorant to the ways of this planet, the Kami are still going to attempt to protect their lands.