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toneh wrote:Dunno, I was under the impression that all PR was PvP?

Please correct me if I'm wrong, and presuming I am, then no need for more!

Only Umbra (all 4 parts) and Nexus. Why nexus? No idea. Only forest place with supreme mats.

raynes wrote:No only the Lands of Umbra and the Nexus are. Abyss of Ichor, Underspring, and the wasterlands are all pvp free.

Corrected I stand.

The ones that knows me in-game knows that I dislike pvp/pk and spoiling others fun. IF my friends/guild gets attacked I do fight to defend them, because is my duty. But pk for fun is for retards if you ask me. Why? Game is hard enough in team, solo is almost imposible. A player who is highly enough level to afford walking in pr-pvp area looking for other players to kill must be really bored of the game. The role play is just an escuse for your actions.

And about YOUR role play. Extremist you say? Not long ago happened IRL some things. Jihad, planes, twin towers, war... those sounds familiar to you? Cut the c**p mate. We all had enough of religious extremism IRL. I will not - and now I think a lot of players will agree with me - welcome any "kami extremist" and believe me, I'd rather resurect a kipee than resurect you.
I play the game to relax after a day of work, not to get killed by some "avatar of destruction" no matter wich side is. I find my fun and relaxation in harvesting and crafting things like many other players. Be free to find your fun where you like but not near me or my guildmates. You are not welcome.

PS And it happens that me and my Guild to be on the side of Kami.

vutescu wrote: And about YOUR role play. Extremist you say? Not long ago happened IRL some things. Jihad, planes, twin towers, war... those sounds familiar to you? Cut the c**p mate. We all had enough of religious extremism IRL. I will not - and now I think a lot of players will agree with me - welcome any "kami extremist" and believe me, I'd rather resurect a kipee than resurect you.
I play the game to relax after a day of work, not to get killed by some "avatar of destruction" no matter wich side is. I find my fun and relaxation in harvesting and crafting things like many other players. Be free to find your fun where you like but not near me or my guildmates. You are not welcome.

PS And it happens that me and my Guild to be on the side of Kami.

Why does everyone assume there is this expectation that everybody has to be nice to my character in game or rez me? I don't want that. I want people to hate my character. I want to go into an area and have a reaction, otherwise the game is dull. If you don't want to rez me, then fine don't. It really doesn't bother me one way or the other.

As for your belief of many players agreeing with you, I think you are wrong. You see most of the people involved in the game can seperate what is in game from what happens in real life. They know that my attacking and killing of a Karavan tribe doesn't mean I'm going to go attacking and killing people in real life. They know if I kill them, I am killing their character, not them the player.

Finally about me not being welcome near you and your guildmates. I am free to go in the game where I choose, you have no say in that. If I am in the pvp areas of the roots and attack someone near you, you are going to have to deal with it. If you don't like it, then report me or simply don't go into the roots.

The rules of the game dictate what I can and can not do. The devs and GM's decide what is appropiate and what is not. Not you, your guild, or any other player.

Which guild are you in Vutescu?

i find it very difficult to recognise who is and isnt rping as theres so many people that play this game as "themselves".so im very eager to see how the community handles this new influx of (from what ive read on the NA forum) serious rpers.

as for killing people in pr,ill stay out of this one as i dont want to offend anyone

raynes wrote:Why does everyone assume there is this expectation that everybody has to be nice to my character in game or rez me? I don't want that. I want people to hate my character. I want to go into an area and have a reaction, otherwise the game is dull. If you don't want to rez me, then fine don't. It really doesn't bother me one way or the other.

As for your belief of many players agreeing with you, I think you are wrong. You see most of the people involved in the game can seperate what is in game from what happens in real life. They know that my attacking and killing of a Karavan tribe doesn't mean I'm going to go attacking and killing people in real life. They know if I kill them, I am killing their character, not them the player.

Finally about me not being welcome near you and your guildmates. I am free to go in the game where I choose, you have no say in that. If I am in the pvp areas of the roots and attack someone near you, you are going to have to deal with it. If you don't like it, then report me or simply don't go into the roots.

The rules of the game dictate what I can and can not do. The devs and GM's decide what is appropiate and what is not. Not you, your guild, or any other player.

Well Raynes and Vut, IMO you're both sort of wrong there.

Raynes - the Devs and GMs decide what are exploits, enforce the written-in-stone rules etc but the community forms its own code of conduct and behaviour which is enforced through expectation and peer pressure.

Vutescu - You've got no right, whatsoever, to tell people how they can or cannot RP and with particular reference to religious extremism that's what part of the game is about. Just because these things go in IRL doesn't mean they shouldn't be talked about, examined or played with. In fact it makes it all the more imperative that they are talked about and roleplay is a good way to step outside yourself and walk a mile in another man's shoes.

As regards the game, Ma-Duk, the force behind the kami, is the god of creation and thus of Atys. Jena goddess of the homin. There's no reason why someone shouldn't be able to worship both. What's different is that the kami (Ma-Duk) try to preserve the planet and hold its well being above all other considerations while the karavan place the homin above the planet. At least that's my interpretation.

Don't also forget that the Fyros and Tryker pretty much pay lip service to their particular faction as written and aren't _as_a_whole_ supposed to be as fanatically devoted to their religion as the Zorai and Matis are.

Individuals are individuals, but you should consider the theme of your race.

That's part of the reason Samsara work as Fyros, mostly lip service to the kami and our real worship is that of the dapper

vutescu wrote:The ones that knows me in-game knows that I dislike pvp/pk and spoiling others fun. IF my friends/guild gets attacked I do fight to defend them, because is my duty. But pk for fun is for retards if you ask me. Why? Game is hard enough in team, solo is almost imposible. A player who is highly enough level to afford walking in pr-pvp area looking for other players to kill must be really bored of the game. The role play is just an escuse for your actions.

And about YOUR role play. Extremist you say? Not long ago happened IRL some things. Jihad, planes, twin towers, war... those sounds familiar to you? Cut the c**p mate. We all had enough of religious extremism IRL. I will not - and now I think a lot of players will agree with me - welcome any "kami extremist" and believe me, I'd rather resurect a kipee than resurect you.
I play the game to relax after a day of work, not to get killed by some "avatar of destruction" no matter wich side is. I find my fun and relaxation in harvesting and crafting things like many other players. Be free to find your fun where you like but not near me or my guildmates. You are not welcome.

PS And it happens that me and my Guild to be on the side of Kami.

Pfff. I come from Northern Ireland mate. We've lived with the Troubles for more years than I'd care to think. I don't come to Atys expecting a world of flowers and love! This is not a hippy commune! Do we stop warring with the Kitin too? Maybe sit down with the Kirostas and try to understand it from their point of view?

Don't bring real life into this. This is a fantasy world, no comparison. Without enemies, where is the fun? If you don't want to roleplay, fair enough. I don't think anyone will be killing randomly, that's been covered earlier. If someone comes up to you in the roots and asks you roleplaying questions like who you support (which a roleplayer will) then when you tell them you're not interested they'll leave you alone. And if they don't ask, or even just kill you randomly, they aren't roleplayers. They're just griefers. Give their name and they will be squashed.

/important part
Seriously though, this isn't a flame at you. I think you just took things the wrong way. I hate it when griefers try to pass it off as roleplaying. It gives Rping a bad name. Real roleplaying is wonderful and won't interfere with your harvesting. Real roleplaying helps to build story and history, it's nothing to do with killing people in PvP with no warning, or when the other person is not interested. Every roleplayer I know will leave people who don't roleplay to enjoy themselves in their own way. I'm looking forward to roleplaying with Raynes when he gets here, as I think it's going to be cool having dedicated rpers. And Mia, btw, not just Raynes! The other side!

Just a last question and I'll no longer post on this thread.

At what level you decided, Raynes, that you should RP? Level 1 or level +200? Were you a wimp when you decided that you are worthy to defend Kami belief or you already was someone to be rekoned with?

vutescu wrote:Just a last question and I'll no longer post on this thread.

At what level you decided, Raynes, that you should RP? Level 1 or level +200? Were you a wimp when you decided that you are worthy to defend Kami belief or you already was someone to be rekoned with?

I'm not sure the point of this question. My choice to RP had nothing to do with my level (and I'm only 153). It had everything to do with wanting more out of the game than leveling. When I started to play this game it was due to the story. I have been and always will be into lore. As my character progressed I learned more about the Kami and started to play as a Kami follower. From there it just sort of blossomed into what it is now.

If you are somehow implying that I started roleplaying just becuase I can beat people up, then you are way way off. Killing and attacking are just one part of the role I play (not even that big of a part).