vguerin wrote:As ignorant as ever it seems... I wander thru Atys freely with Karavan tags on doing as I choose... I partake in in the defense of all KA guilds and won't let a someone part of a guild that couldn't hold an OP tell me where I stand. Any of them can always ask that "I" or Melinoe don't help them... You social interactions are meaningless gamewise.
When those you entertain want to speak for themselves and not have a flunky do it I welcome it, hell I look forward to it. Until then you're just crying over spilled milk. I feel RP means playing a role, you feel it is social... In either case it is not close to the same thing as earning something thru action not words... Again, you want to talk out of place, be specific... I promise I won't run...
[EDIT] No player has ever died in Atys, only thier accounts... !
Oh, amusing, you speaking of ignorance. Glass (Amber?) houses and stones I think.
Where to start...
'Couldn't hold an OP' - We could and did with a cross factional alliance before it became trendy to have one due to the blundering (again!) selfishness of a certain mostly-factional alliance prompted people to build one. We gave up the OP because it was causing us OOC stress, was not even remotely what was promised, exposed us to PvP outside our own terms and didn't forward the story the way OPs should have. R2 has provided us with something far MORE like OPs were envisioned as being. A living, breathing, growing guild settlement and a story that is about rebuilding and resettlement. So stop repeating your 'big enough lie, often enough', it just makes you look like a <mammary gland>.
The 'role' that you feel comes into 'role-playing' is a positional role. This would be interpreted as a rather shallow characterisation similar to 'class' in D&D. It is like meeting someone at a party who describes themselves as 'Oh, I'm a computer programmer' - It doesn't actually tell you anything about the person. Even you have a little more depth to your RP than your 'role' in that sense, even if it is only 'fanatic' which is about the most shallow and simplistic RP there can be since it reduces everything to black and white. Good for beginners though. Perhaps you should find something a bit more challenging though?
Roleplaying is not simply about playing out a 'job', it is about taking on a personality, acting as they would act in responding to what is going on around them. This is more than 'crafter, digger, fighter, mage' or even 'Barbarian, Fighter, Cleric, Thief, Wizard, Sorceror' this is things like...
* World weary retired soldier who has witnessed too much horror in war.
* Person raised in religious society who is starting to have doubts and have feelings for someone on the other 'side'.
* Hard-bitten ex guard who has seen the seedy underbelly of the society they once patriotically guarded.
Roleplaying is about the portrayal of personality, history, context. Thinking as someone else for a short while.
You want to talk about the value of action, not words? Particularly as it relates to R2 and its rewards? Fine, we can do that too. What's more challenging? Cutting down a few creatures in a standard hunt formation or winning the trust of a suspicious tribal leader through negotiations? Or solving a twelve-stage riddle puzzle that actually makes you think? Or any number of other social/mental challenges?
You, quite manifestly, lack imagination and the ability to roleplay but don't project your own flaws onto other people and expect them to be as limited in scope and grasp as yourself. Cheers.