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Re: The zorai pictograms research (results)

Posted: Thu Sep 07, 2006 1:43 pm
by komissar
The symbols on the drill (and the temple) are kami writing and yes we have talked about it. Yes we have talked about this kami writing before: The kami writing: http://www.ryzom.com/multimedia/screens ... fullscreen

It is alphabet based and I am 95% sure that the initial phrases were in french. That language I do not know alas. The kami writing could be deciphered if the researcher in charge would be a french-speaking one. And I also posted instructions for deciphering alphabet-based ciphers:

A short master-class in deciphering alphabet based-ciphers

Deciphering alphabetic scripts is not that tricky really. First you look at those letters that are repeating more often than others - usually it means they are vowels. Then when you have a set of possible variants for each you go for 2-3 letter words (better yet same words that repeat themselves throughout the text) these are either prepositions or things like "the" "a" (forgot the term. It's called artickel in russian After that you start browsing through the text putting in various "kinda deciphered" vowels and the like. It helps a lot when there are things like names of people or places that you already know. It would be Ma-duk in the kami writing for example. So going on like this you get as many letters as possible and then start deciphering the sentences checking for errors in collected letter info and filling (guessing) gaps. Do that until you have ALL letters and voila. :)

Hope this explains it :)


As for the symbols on the roads, I am 100% sure they are pure ornamentation...

Re: The zorai pictograms research (results)

Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 8:17 pm
by martl
Komissar, work for you!

i visited Zurich, Switzerland this week. Apparently the Zorai run a supermarket there:

http://www.tourgalerie.de/cpg132/displa ... p?pos=-313

unfortunately, the shop was already closed. A pity, i think they sold sup stuff, and i would love to get a new mask :p

Any idea what they sell there?

Glo

Re: The zorai pictograms research (results)

Posted: Fri Sep 15, 2006 8:35 pm
by rundll32
hahah!! Komi has his work cut out :D

Re: The zorai pictograms research (results)

Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 10:09 am
by xeraphim
martl wrote:Komissar, work for you!

i visited Zurich, Switzerland this week. Apparently the Zorai run a supermarket there:

http://www.tourgalerie.de/cpg132/displa ... p?pos=-313

unfortunately, the shop was already closed. A pity, i think they sold sup stuff, and i would love to get a new mask :p

Any idea what they sell there?

Glo
ROFL well spotted Glo man!!

Re: The zorai pictograms research (results)

Posted: Sat Sep 16, 2006 3:30 pm
by komissar
Wow I must say I am impressed :)
I'll get down to it :)

Some symbols are unknown even to such a celebrated zorai heritage scholar as myself :P At least now we know where the renegade devs have been exiled to :D

Re: The zorai pictograms research (results)

Posted: Fri Oct 27, 2006 3:25 pm
by skeith8
This is all so so very interesting! I am quite new to the game, but recently decided upon being Zorai....so this brings a whole new level to my prefered character. I hope to see many many more results out of this thread, so I can get a better understanding of the Zorai culture, ideals, and beliefs.

Re: The zorai pictograms research (results)

Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 10:32 pm
by faedyne
I don't understand. Is your "deciphering" made-up or based on something like Korean writing?

Re: The zorai pictograms research (results)

Posted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 10:03 pm
by acridiel
It´s definetly not "made up". :)
He knows what he´s talking about.

And I have a new challange for you Kommisar.

Decipher what´s on the Armas back :D
These markings always looked like some kind of runes to me.

Maybe it says : Made my Jena/Ma`Duk

*gg* :D

CU
Acridiel

Re: The zorai pictograms research (results)

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 9:41 am
by onelark
Oh wow, this is wonderful stuff. I'm a huge language geek and I'd love to help out with the translation efforts - where would I be able to get hold of you ingame? (I'm larkascending on Arispotle).

Re: The zorai pictograms research (results)

Posted: Mon Apr 23, 2007 12:39 pm
by komissar
Unfortunately i am rarely seen ingame (better say never) these days due to RL reasons... but you are welcome to contact my msn: komissar.ootn (at) hotmail.com