Freedom for the void: I said we would be back!

[xeraphim]

Simple solution, everyone withdraw to their native lands only and let the native guilds occupy their own lands.

Then everybody can just get along!

I wish (blah balah 10 char)

[dbritt]

done....but your wrong, if you want examples send me a tell, I will not argue about this joke here

H

[dbritt]

Actually yes i will...

withdrawl in to our own lands?? Hmm, kinda seems to be defeting the whole purpose of this game. We are at war, supposedly...if you dont like it, go play Diablo.

Friends, as i said, I am friends with everyone that has ever talked to me (forums are a different standard though, we can disaggree) On the DAY of the last battle i was ressed by Juko, of the guild attacking us....*GASP* what evil was this. is this wrong, no, is this the spirit of the game, yes....does this have a damn thing to do with the FvF or OP battles, not..a...bit. You people just need to be able to separate hard feelings from the people you kill and are killed by in a BATTLE.

Next statement, it's very simple freaking math...if you fight with the enemy, you ARE the enemy....why is that so hard to understand? ANY world is always designed off of the real world. If there were an American fighting for the Iraq army, guess what, I would hope he gets shot by his enemies, because he is no longer American.

Wake up and get smart people....as I said, fight with the enemy, you are the enemy....if you dont have the fame to be declared that, it's your own damn fault.

H

[19891989]

Xera you dont think very HARD too.

What happend if Kami fight against You ?
What happend if some Zorai guild fight against you ?

Because they dont believe at your cause or just because they are more friend whit your ennemy ? (no sense)

My opinion :

If your not agree whit your Faction, just dont show up at attack/defend phase.

P.S what about team spirit (tryker) in Zorai. Cause you look like play Race vs Race so ...

[xeraphim]

Actually yes i will...

withdrawl in to our own lands?? Hmm, kinda seems to be defeting the whole purpose of this game. We are at war, supposedly...if you dont like it, go play Diablo.

Friends, as i said, I am friends with everyone that has ever talked to me (forums are a different standard though, we can disaggree) On the DAY of the last battle i was ressed by Juko, of the guild attacking us....*GASP* what evil was this. is this wrong, no, is this the spirit of the game, yes....does this have a damn thing to do with the FvF or OP battles, not..a...bit. You people just need to be able to separate hard feelings from the people you kill and are killed by in a BATTLE.

Next statement, it's very simple freaking math...if you fight with the enemy, you ARE the enemy....why is that so hard to understand? ANY world is always designed off of the real world. If there were an American fighting for the Iraq army, guess what, I would hope he gets shot by his enemies, because he is no longer American.

Wake up and get smart people....as I said, fight with the enemy, you are the enemy....if you dont have the fame to be declared that, it's your own damn fault.

H

What i said heavyn was that my particular battle was not against the karavan in general.. it was against the kara guilds occupying Sacred Zorai / kami lands..
Therfore the 2 sides are not Karavan and Kami they are those who believe that they should not be there and those that belive they should.

Thus it is a battle of ideals..

Kami / Karavanism is like a religion... not a nation.. there are extreme factions within a religions that do not agree with one another and thus go on to fight one another..

Your example of the war in iraq would be more accurate if you perhaps used the example of a muslim member of the american / allied forces...

Things are indeed very rarely black and white.

[kyesmith]

My point is simple- so just listen, I REGARD FRIENDSHIP HIGHER THAN FRACTION

[19891989]

My point is simple- so just listen, I REGARD FRIENDSHIP HIGHER THAN FRACTION

No kye

You REGARD yourself HIGHER than Faction/Friendship

[xeraphim]

Xera you dont think very HARD too.

What happend if Kami fight against You ?
What happend if some Zorai guild fight against you ?

Because they dont believe at your cause or just because they are more friend whit your ennemy ? (no sense)

My opinion :

If your not agree whit your Faction, just dont show up at attack/defend phase.

P.S what about team spirit (tryker) in Zorai. Cause you look like play Race vs Race so ...

You have not understood what I am saying here

If I attacked a tryker OP in Tryker lands i would fully expect Kami to be opposing me..
and i would not begrudge them that..
I would hope that they would oppose me.

But thats never going to happen.

I Do not believe in conquest i belive in everyone having thier own share.. the occasional border debates are accepted in the course of things but I do not believe in foreign occupation..

The trykers helped us.. because we helped them free their lands of matisian occupation.. they have suffered the same situation and agree with our ideal.. that is why they aided us..

If you are blinded by religious (faction) zeal then I am sorry for that.. but everything is not FvF...

So please do not tell me that I do not think... I have thought very long and hard about my standpoint on this.
perhaps you should take a little more time to digest information before replying with some quickfire comment?

[19891989]

You have not understood what I am saying here

If I attacked a tryker OP in Tryker lands i would fully expect Kami to be opposing me..
and i would not begrudge them that..
I would hope that they would oppose me.

But thats never going to happen.

I Do not believe in conquest i belive in everyone having thier own share.. the occasional border debates are accepted in the course of things but I do not believe in foreign occupation..

The trykers helped us.. because we helped them free their lands of matisian occupation.. they have suffered the same situation and agree with our ideal.. that is why they aided us..

If you are blinded by religious (faction) zeal then I am sorry for that.. but everything is not FvF...

So please do not tell me that I do not think... I have thought very long and hard about my standpoint on this.
perhaps you should take a little more time to digest information before replying with some quickfire comment?

You still dont think hard Xera, You just listen at Evolution and Nexus, as far i know Xera 2-3 major guild fight against you in Tryker.

[xeraphim]

No kye

You REGARD yourself HIGHER than Faction/Friendship

oh dear
19891989

you have clearly marked yourself as a small minded trouble stirrer here..
you comments are nothing but inflammatory rubbish.

hiding behind a number is easy..

If you want to flame at least have the decency to let people know who you are. then we can know to avoid you ingame a well as on the forums.