Announcing a new alliance - Guardians

[davrick]

Hmmmmm, say you did ally with a karavan guild, and your karavan ally was attacking the OP of your Kami friend, on what side will your neutral/kami/karavan alliance then fight?

Davrick - GL of Sacred Circle of Guardians

[calel]

It may be a silly remark, but if anyone in an alliance would attack another ally, why would they have allied themselves in the first place?

[davrick]

It may be a silly remark, but if anyone in an alliance would attack another ally, why would they have allied themselves in the first place?

So right, they wouldn't, edited my comment to remove word ally, but meant the OP of one of the "friend" guilds that Kostika referred to earlier. Thank you for pointing that out.

My point is, you cannot remain neutral with guilds from both factions in your alliance when conflict arises, which it inevitably will.

Perhaps a reminder of what neutral is:

neu•tral

Pronunciation: (nOO'trul, nyOO'-), [key]
—adj.
1. not taking part or giving assistance in a dispute or war between others:
2. not aligned with or supporting any side or position in a controversy: The arbitrator was absolutely neutral.
3. of or belonging to a neutral state or party: neutral territory.
4. of no particular kind, characteristics, etc.; indefinite: a neutral personality that made no impression whatever.

[akicks]

My point is, you cannot remain neutral with guilds from both factions in your alliance when conflict arises, which it inevitably will.

What do you do if two of your friends are fighting each other and you are caught in the middle?

You have several options: stop them fighting; step back and let them have it out, or join in. (No doubt, there are more)

Only one of those options requires you to make a choice about whose side you are on.

You havn't shown a thing about needing to choose sides, and you havn't even bothered to explore any alternatives.

[hans1976]

Perhaps a reminder of what neutral is:

neu•tral

Pronunciation: (nOO'trul, nyOO'-), [key]
—adj.
1. not taking part or giving assistance in a dispute or war between others:
2. not aligned with or supporting any side or position in a controversy: The arbitrator was absolutely neutral.
3. of or belonging to a neutral state or party: neutral territory.
4. of no particular kind, characteristics, etc.; indefinite: a neutral personality that made no impression whatever.

Back to the fun we can have with words.

This is just a summary of the common meaning of the word neutral, something Nevrax put in to describe the people who neither follow Ma-Duk or Jena. So the words you describe here have only partially meaning to the neutrals on Atys, as the definition comes from Earth (english language as well). When looking up neutral in my old 2e AD&D books and in the d20 versions, neutral is described different from this.

[kostika]

Hmmmmm, say you did ally with a karavan guild, and your karavan ally was attacking the OP of your Kami friend, on what side will your neutral/kami/karavan alliance then fight?

IC:
You're missing something very crutial here. We're an alliance built on defence, not attacking. So its unlikely we would help them attack at all once we had thoroughly spoken with them on the matter.

ooc:

And as Fry has said, neutral has many meanings. A dictionary one is not always one the is right. Also Nevrax's version of neutral is jsut someone who isn't kami or karavan at this point.

[bgraz]

sorry but i have to laugh at this whole thread. I've just read through it for the first time and can't believe the hard time these guys are getting for trying to post something they see as possibly a nice peaceful way to play together. its a game people quit being so damn serious

My drunken thought for tonite

[kgrieve]

sorry but i have to laugh at this whole thread. I've just read through it for the first time and can't believe the hard time these guys are getting for trying to post something they see as possibly a nice peaceful way to play together. its a game people quit being so damn serious

My drunken thought for tonite

Bows to the drunk in the corner.

[sk8rss]

[OOC]
I had lots of drunken thoughts tonight...Forget most of them by now though...

[/OOC]