Please Explain This

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sprite wrote:I wouldn't be surprised if I get accused of something ......

or something that has been answered before in a vague manner, but the players insist on asking again and again (eg "when will ranged be fixed?!").
In any of these last 3 cases, an answer won't be possible at all.
Oh Spriteh. How perceptive of you. Thankfully you make it so obvious I don't have to make any accusations. That might get me banned. Although I thought making it so obvious was a breach of contract.

I also don't understand your expectation of not getting an answer when answered previously "in a vague manner". If one of your lecturers answered in a vague manner I am sure you would jump on him/her in triumph. Unless, of course, you were working for them.

However, thanks for bringing up the important question of when range will be fixed. You are correct in stating the answers are vague or even non existent.(that is, vagueness to the extreme) so I appreciate you bringing it up again. I have not only queried a revamp but as simple a change as reduction in bulk. Not even your silver tongue can stretch that out to more than a few moments of coding time.
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alyssah wrote:Oh Spriteh. How perceptive of you. Thankfully you make it so obvious I don't have to make any accusations. That might get me banned. Although I thought making it so obvious was a breach of contract.
oh for heavens sake can't you just drop this? Every couple of months you go on a rampage accussing all and sundry of working for Nevrax after the last 2 massive threads u still want to try and stir up bad feelings and suspicion?

what's the problem here? Sounds to me like your jealous.
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alyssah wrote:Not even your silver tongue can stretch that out to more than a few moments of coding time.
*Jumps up and down to make the happiness come back* I have one of those!
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Lathaniel wrote:On closer examination of Xavier's policy, and upon talking to a guide in game, it appears that he can (and will) ban instantly from the forums, at the first hint of any post he himself doesn't like, just by going back and finding some past evidence of "trolling".

I suspect that almost everyone on this forum has had some time when they've been frustrated and posted expressing that, which is no more than any of the people who've been banned have done. So we all have the choice, it seems, to post that everything is rosey, or to be banned from the forums. Else leave by our own choice.
I'm not reading the remaining pages of this thread, but Lathaniel's reply to being banned is trolling itself. Baiting those who moderate the forums, nonetheless. I was really taken aback that this response was quoted in a thread geared towards getting him unbanned.
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True, but I probably would have said worse, under the circumstances.
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rushin wrote:oh for heavens sake can't you just drop this? Every couple of months you go on a rampage accussing all and sundry of working for Nevrax after the last 2 massive threads u still want to try and stir up bad feelings and suspicion?

what's the problem here? Sounds to me like your jealous.
Rushin - I challenge you to put names to the all and sundry that I have accused. Either put up or........
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Please, excuse my english, i used it very rarely because i'm french.
Xavier Antoviaque wrote:
Using the "A more cynical person than I might say..." trick is just a way to saying something without taking the responsability of what is said. And what is said is "GrimJim was only banned at his first post because certain people at Nevrax had had enough of having their mistakes and inconsistencies pointed out by him.". That's ranting and personal attack.

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I think that the big questions in all the 3 communities are "Why don't you ban people who insult and don't respect the chart ?" and "Why do you ban the people who post and make living the rp on Atys ?"

In the french community, 3 persons were banned for the forum by very doubtful reasons. And one was banned definitely with a hilarious reason.

Personnaly, i was banned because i have asked this simple question "How is Nevrax sure that a CSR who is a player too is honest ?" I was instantaneously flamed and the fanboys requested me proof. I gave my proof, a very shocking proof who forced the CSR to ban a guilty CSR in the minute (although during 6 months we were 6 persons to denounce the situation in private to the CSR without results). I was flaming anew by fanboy and friends of this CSR and, in the fact, ban for a very odd reason... but not the people who flame me. Strange... very strange when you discover you was banned because Xavier has learned a possible discussion between me and a CSR, discussion I haven't the memory and i never see the proof i have done it even if i ask to see the log of this discussion.

The other person banned, definitely for him, was a great piliar of our community, in the rp and the analysis of the game... banned definitely because a big part of the players were exhausted to see the game they believed and loved totally transformed and the promises forgotten. He was an ancient CSR... and his analysis were very fine because he demonstrates that our hypothesises weren't so odd in the great deceiving of the fanboys.

The same situation seems appearing in the english community when i read the posts who denounces the bans launched on people who have the same profile than the french banned people.

For information, more than 70 french rp players leave the game since the Episod 2... and the survivors who asked something about the encyclopedia, the rp and other little things are frequently flaming in posts by fanboys and the survivorbanned in consequence to have opened a flaming thread, but not the flamers apparently.

The question will be simple (and it's probable that I will be banned after all because my post is maybe a troll but, for my defence, i don't know now what is troll or not ?) : Do the moderators make repression in the mean to fresh up the forum and offer a very pro-Ryzom mmopvp community to the Nevrax's future customers ?

EDIT : Could the moderators say me what is considered like a troll now because I'm very confused now by seeing some trolls which aren't banned and other which don't seem to me trolls but the moderators consider like troll ?
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Xavier, is any of the above post true??? It would seem you are mounting an attack on the more outspoken & long term survivors of Ryzom. Is that correct???

Now that it has been confirmed that this attack on freedom of speech is a cross community issue it does tend to take on more sinister intonations than maybe a few fanboys trolling the forum and flaming the criticism of regular gameplayers. Come to think of it - that IS trolling & flaming they are doing.

Come into the open Xavier and just tell us who you want rid off. I'm sure most of them will be glad to co-operate.
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daerel wrote:I think that the big questions in all the 3 communities are "Why don't you ban people who insult and don't respect the chart ?" and "Why do you ban the people who post and make living the rp on Atys ?"
There is no distinction when we apply the rules. You can be a roleplayer, a PvP-er, green with big ears - it doesn't matter, the rules are the same for everybody. If you notice someone who is rude or insults others, you can PM or mail me, we'll have a look at the issue and act.
Personnaly, i was banned because i have asked this simple question "How is Nevrax sure that a CSR who is a player too is honest ?"
No, you were banned for one week at that time because you posted a spoiled screenshot on the boards, instead of sending it to the email address you were provided for that.

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A one week ban. I was warned of a permanent ban. Anyway - what was so wrong that a ban was needed at all? Posted on the wrong spot. Cheesh, that is naughty.

Could you respond to my above questions please Xavier?

Could you also tell us the result of the review of the bans that you promised on Monday. That's today. No need for names just eg. of the 6 bans 4 have been reinstated, or something like that will do.
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