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omsop wrote:3/ Only Infinity are interested in keeping this war thing going.

Actually I wrote your guild leader and high officer... all speaking of peace before entering the new server. Writng about nothing but trying to put all of this behind us... and move on. Your high officer (who is an absolute gem... if I may add) got back to me several times about it... just in case you think I'm making this up.


Sidebar:
Today's trivia answer is: Asengul.

swater wrote:maybe after the merge peeps will have better things to amuse themselves with, then these problems and this thread will dissapear...

Finally, I'd love to take swater's advice to heart... just as I would like to go into the new server without any hard feelings... I'm gonna go out on a limb here and say all further posts to this thread will determine if that's possible or not.

Goodnight for now all,
Tomorrow it's party-time, Eurpoean style...

...sucks about the exchange rate though

Expectantly,

I am totaly and completely against all forms of Exploitation and cheating.

The GM and Guides, Know how I feel about this and I am very clear to anyone, friend or no friend, on my position.

I would not be associated with a Guild whos members succeed by breaking the CoC.

I know of people who have been banned and I know of people who have been warned.

A player is only ever banned if they refuse to change their ways. Its not viable for a company to ban people on a whim or without hard evidence.

Catching people 'in the act' is dam hard!

A player who exploited once, got a warning and then changed their ways .... is worthy of our forgiveness. The Real World would be so much better if this happened more IRL.

So be aware, I have no tolerance for cheats and I am not alone. Achiving a title through struggle and hard work .... is much more rewarding the the 'hollow title' gained by cheating.

Defining 'exploits' is very hard as they are open to interpritation.

For example ....

Your travelling, you see a 'frozen kincher', you kill it and continue travelling.

Have you exploited? I would say NO

You are actively seeks 'frozen kinchers', you kill them find they are still stuck when the respawn. You repeatedly kill them!

Are you an exploiter? I would say YES

Exploitation is the intent with in you!

You know if its right or wrong and if you are unsure .... ASK! A Senior GM will know and if there is some doubt, personally I would not do it.

'Cliffing' is a classic 'pointless' past time.

Elem+Healer on a good spot can level as fast and with loot, as a Elem using the cliffs!

So make you victories mean something, allow yourself to wear you titles with pride.

Don't be the person that make me look at all AoD's and ask myself the question 'Cheat' or 'Dedication'?

To shamelessly rip of a famous person (guess who and you win a box of cookies).

He who sacrifices fun for cheating deserves neither.

Hint

thexdane wrote:as for those misreading what i'm saying, i never said "everyone on the kami side is bad" i said "MOST ppl on the kami side are bad"

Just to let you know- most of us on the EE server that are Kami supporters are totally decent players. However if you continue to make a generalisation like this you won't be tolerated and you wont be taken seriously for long!


As a note to Predzz and Ozric, I can't speak on behalf of EoA but AoA i will. The accusation of AoA botting is totally rediculous. I know for a fact that we dont because we all sleep- and everyone logs out. Besides i am not sure we'd even know how to do this. :S As far as im concerned this is just a stab at AoA due to jealousy of stronger guilds. As for the exploiting we apparently do, of the hunting trips i have been on in the month i have been with AoA- we have done no exploiting.

Edit: I think i got Predzz wrong- sorry

ozric wrote:I consider cliffing mobs as exploiting, i guess members of AoA dont.

ummm this member most certainly does , I also consider slagging whole guilds off on forums as lame too , if you see someone exploiting report them

hehe, all good fun

Botting...never heard of it and I cant see much benefit to it in any case! Surely toxic clouds would kill you? (or am I just being a newb!) Or get a full bag in 45mins?
I still use the mouse for selecting recoures, what a pain in the a55 that is....to lazy to record thre macro! ironic!

My post is just a little one of thought:-
re: explotation.....

(I know its against the rules but here's my thoughts.......am probably drawing to much from RL though)

As homins, imo, we exploit what ever we can, imo its why homins have a brain.
Why not hunt from the cliff? Logic / self survival would say to do this! But if its an erroe in the game then its against the rules?

When brings me to.....'grey areas', my question before I go any further is that all these exploations due to game 'faults'??? And its the GM way with CoC to manoeuvre round them?

As Im a newb I dont know!

Extract 2 hit care 2 hits repeat then prospect and do same again no need to pick up just move onto next sorce, slow but safe exp this is my guess to how its done and i cant see how ya would blow up.

Botting / keystoke marcos recorder are just lame if ya see someone care planing alot just watch em for a few mins, its ushally the big give away when ya say hi and they ignore you and are seen to be doing dig 2 hits care 2 hits.

Just to add I go round Atys, well mainly dyron, with a smile on my face, happy as larry, everyone is friendly, nice and chatty! (EE)

So please, NA, leave anything bad at the gates and start afresh!

I for one have no one on my ignre list, nor shall I!

A few tips :-

If your homin is:

Getting stressed book him into a massage parlour......I can recommend the tryker twins

A littel bit down give him a tickle or go down the pub.....

Feel like ranting put your head in one of the tryker lakes and do it there....(just watch out for floaters...dirty little trykers!)

If your at war then be at war, dont quival about whats fair and whats not.......thats war!! (Could list several quotes!). But have fun with it, thats what gaming is all about, fun!

And thats how Id like to welcome NA to EE.....FUN FUN FUN!!

caitiff wrote:
Dragging mobs: Yes, some infinity members DO drag BUGGED critters around. These are kinchers and what not that will NOT attack unless you atk first.

Bugged mobs will not attack any player. Even when attacked. Even when being dragged around as pets. Fear works on certain mobs, taunt can work but isn't as effective. The monster will then follow around the first player it eyeballs. Other players are free to attack this monster with impunity and it will not, I repeat, will not fight back.

I've done this with a large variety of mobs, just for fun. I don't gain from it, no-one loses anything, so I don't think of it as an exploit. It's just a bug. And I'm not trying to choose a side in this ultimately pointless word war (the gms will sort it out if it occurs on EE. They're gooooooood.); I don't know you guys and will get to know you when you come over to us, not beforehand on here where the facts need an iron and some starch to get even vaguely straightened out. But this doesn't explain or excuse dragging aggro and shouldn't be used as such. That bug can have nothing to do with dragging active aggro and I don't want to see people attempting to use it as an excuse. Aggro has to be active to be dragged against another player. Thank you for your attention, please return to your regular viewing.

glipe wrote:Bugged mobs will not attack any player. Even when attacked. Even when being dragged around as pets. Fear works on certain mobs, taunt can work but isn't as effective. The monster will then follow around the first player it eyeballs. Other players are free to attack this monster with impunity and it will not, I repeat, will not fight back.

I've done this with a large variety of mobs, just for fun. I don't gain from it, no-one loses anything, so I don't think of it as an exploit. It's just a bug. And I'm not trying to choose a side in this ultimately pointless word war (the gms will sort it out if it occurs on EE. They're gooooooood.); I don't know you guys and will get to know you when you come over to us, not beforehand on here where the facts need an iron and some starch to get even vaguely straightened out. But this doesn't explain or excuse dragging aggro and shouldn't be used as such. That bug can have nothing to do with dragging active aggro and I don't want to see people attempting to use it as an excuse. Aggro has to be active to be dragged against another player. Thank you for your attention, please return to your regular viewing.

I was unaware that they would not attack regardless as I have not done it yet... usually digging But that is all my guild does. We do not drag around active, as you call them, mobs.