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vguerin wrote:I have had to rewrite this many times to keep from the wrath of Cerest (A power nearly equal to Jena). But I just have to say as a VERY ACTIVE Matis player this is a bunch of hogwash.

I will give PF every kudo in the world for being fairly peaceful, but they are neither unbiased nor a simple group wanting to make friends. As the apparent "Extremist" Karavan guild, I'd be slacking to not chime in on this hooey.

PF in their passivism has made a note to show disdain to us so called extremists guilds on many occasions. ALL THE WHILE being one of the biggest pimp guilds in Matis. I am fairly sure their recruiting line isn't "I am sorry, but you will not be involved with the storyline in the game due to our beliefs". ALL the so called "moderate" guilds in Matis are the biggest pimps of new folks and then want to cry foul when the enemy smites them.

I am going to leave it as is for now... but DUDE, they want the prizes but not the penalty of being Karavan... Defend yourself, you appear to stand for something (If as you say you express it more). Don't associate with those that want rewards but not labels !

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vguerin wrote:I am going to leave it as is for now... but DUDE, they want the prizes but not the penalty of being Karavan... Defend yourself, you appear to stand for something (If as you say you express it more). Don't associate with those that want rewards but not labels !

vguerin wrote:You made their point for them while trying to dispel it... no wonder your guild is confused ! It was NOT about the kitin, we manage to avoid other goo infected bosses throughout our travels in Atys.

THIS boss stood out because it was the guardian of a RELIC that the Karavan and Kami wanted. This had NOTHING to do with neutral whatsoever...

Classic example as I have stated before about why there is so much mistrust of the "Neutral" guilds... Not only did you jump on the winning team bandwagon, you later GOT A REWARD/TITLE by visiting the Karavan Commander at it's completion !

Get off the fence, or at least know what you are fighting for...

raynes wrote:The pvp areas are well thought out and setup.

raynes wrote:As for the idea of a switch, I am also against that. If you are playing this game you should expect to be a part of rp. If you go into the roots, you expect Kinchers to try to get you. If you go in most of Matis you expect Gingos and Ragus to attack you. It should be no different just because it's another player.

raynes wrote:My suggestion to you is to have your harvesters guarded while in the pvp areas if you feel they are in danger. As I and others have stated guilds need to start to take responcibility for their actions. If you are sending your members into the roots, you should be responcible enough to send protection with them.

animd wrote:I personally don't have any problems with people role playing, I even think its interesting but not for me. I have tried to pay attention to the discussions and I see merit in the RP viewpoint. I even applaud those who are taking the time to do it, makes things interesting.

Now on to my particular Neutral veiwpoint. I am neutral in this and I personally do not want to be a part of this battle between factions. I think all Homins lives and time are valuable and their particular viewpoints should be respected and violence should not be forced upon them. It does not make sense to brand a whole race as against either Kami or Karavan (not trying to accuse people). This is despite what the lore says, people can change and do change with time. We are deciding the future of Atys and we can make it peacefull place or a violent place.

If there are those that take aggressive moves and force violence on others they should be punished, in a policing action, not as a war. I also think that there should be a witness and verification process before that person is punished.

I also think that the people and guilds that wish to remain neutral should be allowed to do so. I am part of a rather large guild and we are able to defend our own but there are many that do not have that luxury. Those that wish to remain neutral do not want to be pulled into this unwillingly.

I will do my best to promote peace and hope that others can come along side and do the same.

AnimD
Out Of Cavern

aelvana wrote:This game is PvP. It's a game. If I catch you off guard, and you're on the enemy team, you may have to defend yourself.

Trying to appeal to the fact that I'm a person isn't going to save you in game 8)

animd wrote:Point taken.

I was incorrect in my statement about the event. I took all my info from doing the event not the lore posted surrounding the event. My mistake.

I still stand by my statement of not wanting to be involved in a war between the factions. I have friends of all races and faiths. I am not saying that those who want to be involved cannot or should not, just that I do not. I am not trying to be anyones enemy dispite the fact that some wish to paint me as one. I am in no way preventing you from having fun and playing your way. So have fun and enjoy.

AnimD
Out Of Cavern

vguerin wrote:You made their point for them while trying to dispel it... no wonder your guild is confused ! It was NOT about the kitin, we manage to avoid other goo infected bosses throughout our travels in Atys.

THIS boss stood out because it was the guardian of a RELIC that the Karavan and Kami wanted. This had NOTHING to do with neutral whatsoever...

Classic example as I have stated before about why there is so much mistrust of the "Neutral" guilds... Not only did you jump on the winning team bandwagon, you later GOT A REWARD/TITLE by visiting the Karavan Commander at it's completion !

Get off the fence, or at least know what you are fighting for...

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thexdane wrote:then i guess you and/or OoC will not be taking part in any of the events that go on in the game?

cause if you do then you ARE part of the conflict and you HAVE chosen a side

thing is with this battle you can't have your cake and eat it too