Community, what community?

[portios]

Those who preach peace are preaching death, they are handing out goo-aid. With no conflict, there is no story, no plot, no dilemmas, no resolutions, it is just a pointless grind.

This is one of the best posts i've read so far.

[ssefeaba]

There are far worse communities existing in other MMO's compared to Ryzom. And we are a LONG ways away from becoming anything that even remotely resembles WoW's community.

Of course, I'm not saying Ryzom doesn't have problems, but really...lighten up, it could be worse

[vguerin]

Rushin, OOC & IC you're a respected player by me and DT... What's gone on in the forums has been bad for all. Folks that admit to not take part in the politics of OP wars (and not even on Aristople) chime in, some take it personally, etc etc.

"I" for one rarely (Ok, I have bit the nasty worm in the tequila bottle at times) get "upset" at things... IC I follow Jena (though the game really failed us on factions), though typically OOC I am a voice of reason while also wanting to expose enemy weaknesses.

Above all else, those of us that have the original box... some of us mousepads, hats and video cards (damn joo Kaetemi) feel there is still more for us in SoR (sadly the Saga is gone)...

For a couple years now I have asked the same thing... GF now has to answer or we'll never know...


Where's the beef ?

<edit> I WANT to WANT to play SoR more, some of my favorite game friends play here. Sadly our great vision of the game is stagnant and nothing I want to do is left. Short of a crafting respec only OP battles interest me... Where is Jena ? What can be gained by playing daily ? Where is the damned beef ??? </edit>

[raven41]

Some people just need to take a step back, There are still many good people in Ryzom, But I have noticed a big change overall since I joined (About a month and a half before EP2)... I used to go out and team with Random people all the time, even had to talk diggers out of diggng to team up heh, But anymore, I team with only my close friends, If I even hunt...

But there really is alot of great people left, We just need to not lose sight of them...

Oh and, Its not about "Oh well its not as bad as WoW"(Or w/e game) Its the fact it 'is' getting worse...

[roseh]

Whats there to disagree about? The factions are at war.
The situation shouldn't of been able to get like this, we need an official statement on it and it to be dealt with quickly to avoid further disapointment in the faction system (or lack of) for newcomers, nevermind those from long ago.

At least something I can agree with. What do you think newcommers see when they get into the game now? The touted community I heard so much before joining is mostly gone (luckily still somewhat alive on the Kami side). The boards, especially the general boards where any new or potential player will go first is full of hateful posts and flames to totally innocent suggestions or questions that were not meant to cause anything but make some people think and agree/disagree with the poster with no hate needed. And also a very unbalanced server with Kara owning all the OPs and Kamis just doing what they always do...

Oh, and for those people who keep screaming "Kami alliance"... News flash, Kami alliance does not exist. There is a forum with that name that houses some communication and idea sharing for the kami, and can be called a loose alliance, but it is certainly not the militaristic alliance like what KA is. Just so those who do not know get the facts straight and don't get confused.

pyrrhon, thank you for the psych assessment, but I don't actually care about the OPs that much, if anything, the fact that the KA want the OPs so much I decided to let them keep them, let them enjoy the fruits of their labours, and I will just enjoy a peaceful PvE game with no PvP elements in it.

With no conflict, there is no story, no plot, no dilemmas, no resolutions, it is just a pointless grind.

Yes, conflict is the basis of any story, however if you ever took literature, the physical conflict is very rarely the main conflict of a story. It's very rarely about the winner or the war, even war novels are about the triumph of the human spirit or about an ideology. So please, don't talk like there are no ways to play this game without PvP, it's almost insulting.

[qurzo]

Oh, and for those people who keep screaming "Kami alliance"... News flash, Kami alliance does not exist. There is a forum with that name that houses some communication and idea sharing for the kami, and can be called a loose alliance, but it is certainly not the militaristic alliance like what KA is. Just so those who do not know get the facts straight and don't get confused.

*grin* Best definition of Kami Alliance I seen sofar

[iwojimmy]

I would like to point out, as has other people, that there are a few posters on the forums here who make a lot of noise.
these arent the voice of Ryzom.
Dont let them convince you otherwise.
It is depressing to read some of the recent posts, but remember the forums - like PvP - are only a facet of the game. Participate if you want to, but if you arent enjoying it do something different.

[sehracii]

Oh, and for those people who keep screaming "Kami alliance"... News flash, Kami alliance does not exist.

Then perhaps forming a concrete alliance would improve performance in Alliance vs Alliance game content?

[kyesmith]

First off sorry for the way this thread is going, i say i play for a small amount of people i get on with well i consider you a great friend (make sure u have your tittle on!)
Personally i see the community breaking down over outposts and factions, which there really is no point in getting into, no one side is at fault and theres not alot that can/will be done to change things. Underlying problems are the old jolt csr team aint around, lets face it if the forums where like this a few months ago half of us wud be banned from them.
What can we expect to change? Not alot really, i think new game content wont help, people who like ryzom will carry on playing i will anyway, i find myself not speaking to more and more karavan, which to be honest has left three on my contacts list and about 20 on my ignore list.

[qurzo]

Then perhaps forming a concrete alliance would improve performance in Alliance vs Alliance game content?

Prolly would from youre pov, but you can't force ppl into a AvA type war.
Maybe there are some kamist that would like to see a Kami Alliance ala KA, but there are also alot who don't want to be part of a "concrete" alliance and thats ok.
Why not split KA into 2 separate alliances and fight each other? There is enough conflict between Tryker and Matis world to give a AvA like that a meaning