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sprite wrote:By Rothimar's definition of "True Neutral" the only ones that can be argued imo are Vx3 and TNH. Maybe RRA (sorry but the rabid trykerness is an even larger alignment than factions so I wouldn't count them as such) and I'd say OotDB too but I think most hardcore kamists and some noted members of Samsara would disagree

OK, so his definition:

rothimar wrote:By truly neutral, I meant without affiliation or alliance with a factionally aligned group.

I'm atill a bit unfamiliar with the affiliations of other Guilds

OotDB are allied with members of the KA. Karaneutrals if you prefer in your language

Thats not an oppinion, thats fact.

*groans* Are we going to have this discussion yet again?

aardnebb wrote:OK, so his definition:

OotDB are allied with members of the KA. Karaneutrals if you prefer in your language

Thats not an oppinion, thats fact.

Corrections and clarifications:

* We are allied with Karavaneer, Kamist, and neutral guilds. Most of them are Karavaneer, but certainly not all.

* Among our members there are neutrals, agnostics, anti-kults, Kamists, Karavaneers, and Jenites.

* As of October 6, the races of our active members are as follows:
Matis: 48%
Fyros: 26%
Zoraï: 15%
Tryker: 11%

These are simple true facts, not opinions or spin or misinformation.

calel wrote:and both the Order of the Dragonblades and the Red Ribbon Army could be classed in the 'neither' category rather than neutral.

Exactly; thank you. And just because our only mechanical option for an alignment other than Karavan or Kami happens to be "Neutral," does not mean we are going to abstain from allying with aligned guilds.

When I was a member the dragonblades strived to make alliances with both kami and kara, just to be honest being matis they found it more difficult for the kami to accept them as allies. When I was there I was quite severely disciplined for taking part in an op battle just with say 2 other members that wasn't authorised as it wasnt in league with our mutual defense pacts etc so its taken very seriously. Think I was removed from High officer for that.

Of all the guilds I've seen I'd say the dragonblades are the most serious about trying to be as neutral as possible and to roleplay well and have my upmost respect for it.

I can honestly say the dragonbalde especially Hal Dear, eschews and mostly dislikes the false gods

I just wanted to say Thank You Very Much all of you Eleytheria members who distributed cats to us homeless homins. Special thanks especially to Vinnie, Erimos, Fantinus(sp?), Supernovae, Zysha, and I'm sorry for missing the names of the rest of you (I was never there at the scheduled time, so I don't even know who was giving out cats at the scheduled time). You guys are Great! These people would stand at the tp for hours it seems or would come over from whatever they were doing, just to share the cats. That kind of commitment will be sorely sorely missed. They are a great example of the kind of community and players that make Ryzom special.
*Deep Bow to Eleytheria*

I don't have any suggestion on what to do with the OP. I've gone off and joined an OP'd guild, so I can't be a beneficiary/participant of a community OP anymore. All I can say is "Thank you for what you've done Eleytheria."

If a young active guild like MoA takes responsability on continuing the community OP politics on that OP I would salute them and help in any way we can. It's not only having some cats for themselves but it's also a great opportunity for them to know people, make friends and be known in their turn.

arfindel wrote:If a young active guild like MoA takes responsability on continuing the community OP politics on that OP I would salute them and help in any way we can. It's not only having some cats for themselves but it's also a great opportunity for them to know people, make friends and be known in their turn.

If MoA takes on the responsibility and the community backs the move I'll happily lend a hand with the Op battle.

katriell wrote:Exactly; thank you. And just because our only mechanical option for an alignment other than Karavan or Kami happens to be "Neutral," does not mean we are going to abstain from allying with aligned guilds.

And yet, you know, our protestations and actions get completely ignored too... Its actually quite nice to see someone else get the accusations for once.

grimjim wrote:And yet, you know, our protestations and actions get completely ignored too... Its actually quite nice to see someone else get the accusations for once.

I can only speak for myself... But yeah The Samsara were once high enough regsrded to hold an OP. The latest Samsara push ro influence others has sway alot of your good favor

ALL non-=Trykeer should merely keep us all informed as well as let us know when help is needed, on any front.

vguerin wrote:ALL non-Trykeer should merely keep us all informed as well as let us know when help is needed, on any front.

hehe, this makes me grin.
According to the lore Tryker and Matis are allies, but it seems it does not really work out that way ingame

or didnt you mean it like that?