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danolt wrote:What I do know is the big swing in power did not occur from a battle. It came from a q250 outpost that was given to a Karavan guild by its Kami owner who actually booted all Kami defenders at the conflict.

Well I'd say it came with that outpost, not from it, but apart from that I agree. Infinity's leaving was definately a major turning point, and I think I'm right in saying that 90% of the server population who have any interest in this conflict would love for Infinity to be back

danolt wrote:If a guild can own 8 (it may be 10) outposts at one time It would seem to me that Nevrax has thought about faction/guild dominance.

well I don't think any guild could. Your GH would overflow immediately...

danolt wrote:It came from a q250 outpost that was given to a Karavan guild by its Kami owner who actually booted all Kami defenders at the conflict.

if this were true then Citizens of Matis would be a powerhouse of the karavan... obviously that isn't the case (and never was). I doubt that since a Void OP was lost that it sparked many of the Kami guilds to vanish (or be severly reduced in numbers... MoV, AP, Infinity, CM, Soul, DCP). If it did, then that must be a magic OP that the Kami need to get back. I mean, if we did, then half a dozen kara guilds will just up and vanish too!

I do not foresee us giving up anything, if you get it you will have earned it.

try actually reading the posts....

totnkopf wrote:Am I saying "give up your OPs?" no

sprite wrote:Well I'd say it came with that outpost, not from it, but apart from that I agree. Infinity's leaving was definately a major turning point, and I think I'm right in saying that 90% of the server population who have any interest in this conflict would love for Infinity to be back

yea, I'd love to see them back too, but until they actually add something new for the higher leveled people to do, I doubt we'll see any of them around (perhaps wiht the kitin lair... many of Infinity, myself included, don't believe R2 to be content.). I miss them every time I log on (hence me not logging on as much as I used to), but none so much as when I show up at an OP fight.... if they had a look around in disbelief or shake head in shame emote, I'd be using them I'm not embarassed by the people there, its just theres no organization (or healing).

komissar wrote:well I don't think any guild could. Your GH would overflow immediately...

agreed... having 2 OPs was enough to keep us having to constantly try to empty it. 1-2 stacks a day for everyone in guild... and if you didn't take them, we'd all know when we check the next day to find 20 stacks clogging up the GH. In order to have 8 or more, you'd have to have a seperate guild and still empty it twice a day.

aardnebb wrote:I think Jyudas was talking about the whole "allegiance" thing. We owe allegiance to no civilisation or religion. Just mercenaries for hire.

For gods sake Z go kami and help us out

wardone wrote:For gods sake Z go kami and help us out

I tried to convince him, but he just doesn't want to leave his family, I used to be that way too

d29565 wrote: he just doesn't want to leave his family, I used to be that way too

You didn't leave your family, you just changed guilds - we're still family. We might not be in-game anymore (or not much), but you always know where to find us.

wardone wrote:For gods sake Z go kami and help us out

Sorry mate. I just don't trust the Kami, the Karavan, Ma-Duk OR Jena. They have their own agendas, and I think it's in the best interest of all my friends that none of them get too powerful.

*hugs Keiko* sorry hun!

aardnebb wrote:Sorry mate. I just don't trust the Kami, the Karavan, Ma-Duk OR Jena. They have their own agendas, and I think it's in the best interest of all my friends that none of them get too powerful.

By that definition you'll side with the underdog, regardless of pay, if true to your belief. But that means you'll be on the losing side when a side does eventually win, thus your belief condemns you to the same fate as the fallen.

All rhetoric aside, the battle for the OP will be more challenging and enjoyable if the sides are even. Those players (not saying guilds) who deliberatly choose to support what they think will be the underdog are providing a service to us all, and deserve to be thanked.

If this turns out to be a decisive tactic, then whining on the forums about the rightness of your cause and how badly done by you are, or threatening players who turn up on the opposing side, will have some point, but until then please lets just play the game in the game.