Ryzom

i agree this shoudl be discussed ingame hence me posting this:

me wrote:please pm me ingame and we can sit down and discuss options..

komissar wrote:And in the beginning of the thread it was written: "Please sign in if you are kara, neutral or even kami not actively fighting against kara."

yep you are right but i was't fighting against the KA i was defending against.. slight differance. it woud be the same if someone attacked your OP and i was helping to defend that. but please pm me ingame i'm online all day but will be afk/at work till 530/6pm uk time

thlau wrote:In my opinion the goal of Kommisar was to public annonce that the Karavan Alliance now considers the guild Insomniacs enemy. .... should not use an advocat of the Order of the Nameless.

Trini

Nope that was not my goal at all. But what does it matter really? after such assumptions you can call me "Devils advocat" aswell LOL

Geez Trini did I step on your foot or something?
So much hatred for the karavan alliance and why?

Anyways. Insomniacs gotta talk to Ex or Mardock of GoJ to make things clear and settle everything kk?

And my answer to Trini is: Sure Anything you say Can I hand you another rock to throw at us? There you go dear *hands nice heavy rock*

Sorry Koni you have been doing a great job on this for both GoJ and the KA I just felt that specific situations should be dealt with in game via tell or via pm in the forums.

Please continue to promote this as you have been as you have been doing a hell of a job. Thanks for the great work my friend.

So, as a rule, guild receiving anything from the KA need to never defend their friends (or better not have friends outside the KA, that would make things simpler), ask in advance which whom make their alliances, give explanations for their acts even if they are clear and explicit?

Wooohoo, and what else, what next?

You should check your dictionary, dear friends. Sharing happens between peers; there's no synonymy to charity.

Yeah Scorp maybe you are right mate
but matters such as this need to be solved as soon as they appear.
And I proposed just that: talk to GoJ GL and Hos

p.s. Allthough I have been even called "k A mi" instead of komi so many times even in our guildchat lool i still would kindly ask you to spell it right

To Faa: No, no and no. But... I can answer in Russian as well since my answer wouldn't matter lol These threads are for the anti-karavan posts and my ones just don't qualify

There you go: Кнопка "повтор" работает безотказно и включается на любой форумный пост: повтор "ааа мля долбаные карванцы мучают, продыху не дают, всех бы их сук к ногтю прибрать, чтоб нам дышать было вольготно"... повтор и по новой.
Господа, пойдите займитесь рукоблудием, если Вам так милы однообразные повторяющиеся движения

And... My dictionary is russian-english I consult it quite often thank you

komissar wrote: And my answer to Trini is: Sure Anything you say Can I hand you another rock to throw at us? There you go dear *hands nice heavy rock*

Hi Komissar,

you could enable Private Messaging then my aim would be more exact, and I will not loose the focus on the main subject of the thread. And ofcourse it would pleasure Rocci if we didn't discuss these matters not public but in secret.

Thank you for the nice stone, I will use it in the appropriate situation.

Trini

arfindel wrote:So, as a rule, guild receiving anything from the KA need to never defend their friends (or better not have friends outside the KA, that would make things simpler), ask in advance which whom make their alliances, give explanations for their acts even if they are clear and explicit?

Are you really questioning someone expecting you not to help their enemies, when they are aiding you ?

If you ask me to make you a sword, should I expect to have that same sword stuck in my back later by one of YOUR friends ? There is no loyalty in your methods whatsoever, you can have friends anywhere but it crosses the line when you mix loyalties.

thlau wrote:
you could enable Private Messaging then my aim would be more exact

Wow thanks As a matter of fact all this time I couldn't figure out where to turn it on Now it's on

Launch those homing babes

vguerin wrote:Are you really questioning someone expecting you not to help their enemies, when they are aiding you ?

If you ask me to make you a sword, should I expect to have that same sword stuck in my back later by one of YOUR friends ? There is no loyalty in your methods whatsoever, you can have friends anywhere but it crosses the line when you mix loyalties.

If I ask you to make me a sword I expect to pay for it and use it against anyone I wish or need.

But if you ask _me_ to accept a sword publicly claiming that you're a sharing champion of the homins, then you're in your right to expect me to _not attack_ you, but in no right on Atys whatsoever to expect me to become your obedient subject.

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Komissar, to my saddness I don't know Lermontov's language. If it was a missunderstanding from translating things, then I am sorry.

What made me interfere was that I find unacceptable to see one of the most respected players in ths game (id est Sash) asked to give explanations in public for defending his friends, while if there was anything to clear that could have been done in game or even over the forums via PM.

As you can see from other people posts, there are homins who consider sharing equal to buying vassals.

But I didn't ask any explanations at all I just stated a point.
These "required explanations" were made up along the way just like all other "horrible karavan crimes" tm

and...

arfindel wrote:If you ask _me_ to accept a sword publicly claiming that you're a sharing champion of the homins, then you're in your right to expect me to _not attack_ you

There you just supported our viewpoint

As for lermontovs tongue, as I said it doesn't matter what I write. So I can write it in Greek or Russian or Urdu or whatever There will be many people to assume, distort and vocalise my opinions in any way they like. That is what I mean by dictionary... translating my words into yours.