Ryzom

elijstar wrote:You take it personally? That's a big mistake.

An RPG is very different to Counterstrike and the other examples that were given. That's the point that was trying to be made I think. The personal investment made into a role-playing character in terms of time, emotion and story is considerably more than that put into an FPS. These things ARE personal to a character.

elijstar wrote:You have to have a sense of humor about it. When I read a post from someone crying that they got ganked here or there and why it was a pain and how cruel and bad it was or whatever, it makes me giggle because it's such a waste of energy.

The waste is in thoughtless and selfish people who place their own personal enjoyment far and away above that of absolutely anyone else. That's poison in any game that includes a community as an aspect of what it is.

elijstar wrote:If I'm in an open pvp area then it's my decision and I simply can't complain if I get mobbed or ganked.

This is only true if there isn't content inextricably linked to that PvP and only accessable through it. If the PvP only supplies PvP bonuses, then there's no problem, if it interferes or blocks creative, crafting or other non-PvP content then no, it isn't really your decision. To get the most out of non-PvP content you are forced to endure a gauntlet of PvP.

elijstar wrote:Sure it can get annoying but what you do is just go do something else for a while, or call your friends out to retaliate. Whining is not a dignified option imho.

Why, if someone is being antisocial and likes fighting, would you reward them by fighting them?

elijstar wrote:The same applies to everyone. If I'm in the mood for pvp and I'm roaming around looking for people to kill in such an area, anyone I find is fair game. I don't care if they're level 1, although I'm not likely to attack someone that low unless they attack me first. In those cases it's funny on both sides almost always.

Sorry but I find that attitude immature and extremely counterproductive. I don't think annihilating people that much weaker than you is funny at all. Fortunately, outside of OP battles and the roots, you shouldn't get much opportunity to do that.

elijstar wrote:There is NOTHING as exciting as fighting a real human. It's great, and the bonus is that a Video Game is a totally safe and controlled environment.

Yeah, we hear this a lot, usually from the people who gank and spawn camp. So much for the challenge and excitement excuse. >.<

elijstar wrote:That having been said, it's a fact that some people simply aren't made to play pvp. The pace, the stress, the confusion, or whatever it may be just overwhelms them. *shrug* It's the same as any human activity that way. One size doesn't fit all.

I don't mind structured, avoidable PvP. I resent being forced into it and I resent an otherwise very promising game being force down that path in some misguided attempt at wider popularity at the cost to what made it truly appealing and unique. We seem to be moving back towards the original track again which is promising though.

It's not the 'pace', 'stress', 'confusion' or being 'overwhelmed' it's much more to do with...

http://sc.tri-bit.com/Image:greaterinte ... theory.jpg

One size definately doesn't fit all and being forced to wear pinching six inch stillettos to walk to the shops chafes.

grimjim wrote:what made it truly appealing and unique.

to you... as always, its about you.

And my my, that was long. The question was do you like PvP?
Not: do you like flaming in region chat?; Do you like aggro pulling? or do you like it when the dog runs by and pulls your broadband cable outta the socket just as you were about to smack Jayce about the head with your sword?...

Im not a fan of PvP. Never have been. The occasional OP battle for me, has been fun, but mainly the ones that involved no trashtalk, and there was a lot of respect from both sides.

Ive started a new character atm, to get away from any PvP, because when spires come, PvP will be thrust on Sinister whether he likes it or not imo.

Spires cancel out TP'ing into a region. So as a Karavan, and if the Kami hold Dyron, then he has to run from Pyr, to level his current skills. Go neutral, and i lose the 250 zone TP areas.

So while not getting involved in PvP generally, it still effects his game without having stepped into a PvP zone.

So the new character eliminates PvP for me, at least until a time i need a 250 zone again, which wont be for a long time, and has given me a way to enjoy the game again from a certain point of view (as opposed to the leave til Chapter 5 comes along idea i originally had)

Yeah, could look at it, that rival faction can be viewed as a mob. But, so far, ive never had a Varinx, after killing me, call me a "****** loser, get more skills, then try again, you noob" (though must point out, no one has called me that hehe)

So, short answer lol, voted no.

ajsuk wrote:to you... as always, its about you.

And my my, that was long. The question was do you like PvP?
Not: do you like flaming in region chat?; Do you like aggro pulling? or do you like it when the dog runs by and pulls your broadband cable outta the socket just as you were about to smack Jayce about the head with your sword?...

To anyone who signed up for the game as it was, as it was advertised. It used to look a lot more unique and different than it does these days.

grimjim wrote:To anyone who signed up for the game as it was, as it was advertised. It used to look a lot more unique and different than it does these days.

Looks more unique to me every day

And I've been here over 2 years now

grimjim wrote:To anyone who signed up for the game as it was, as it was advertised. It used to look a lot more unique and different than it does these days.

its changed. if you dont like it....find another game.

if you do like parts of it, which i think you do, play those parts.

kibsword wrote:Looks more unique to me every day

And I've been here over 2 years now

So have I, you're just relentlessly (and sometimes annoying) optimistic even in the teeth of reality.

rundll32 wrote:its changed. if you dont like it....find another game.

if you do like parts of it, which i think you do, play those parts.

Still not paying attention I see.
Can you seriously not see how those unfun parts encroach on the others?

grimjim wrote:Still not paying attention I see.
Can you seriously not see how those unfun parts encroach on the others?

I pay perfect attention but your argument is somewhat double edged, can you still not see how dictating how people should play.. encroaches on their game..

rundll32 wrote:I pay perfect attention but your argument is somewhat double edged, can you still not see how dictating how people should play.. encroaches on their game..

Exactly, to put it more bluntly for ya brown eye's:
Your forever telling us how to play, and moaning about anything in game that you dont like is spoiling the entire game for you. Well some people (some who joined long ago & some who've just arrived) enjoy the PvP. As always, unless you can play every single part of Ryzom and enjoy it, its no good! BAH!