Freedom for the void: I said we would be back!

[thlau]

So, yeah, I call them Kaneutral or better "Fake karavaneers"

I guess we can call us lucky that not homins decide who is karavaneer or kamist but the Kami and Karavan are free to choose who works toward their goals. Lately I get more and more the impression, that there are homins around, that believe that the decision of the Karavan had been wrong in several cases.

So I ask them: How do you dare to doubt the Karavans decision, is your faith in Jena so weak, that you accuse those that don't agree with the words of your homin leaders? When Jena comes, she will decide who is faithful in her, and worthy of her love.

Trini

[threbus]

Well, as far I know, Nexus is supposed to be a truly Karavan, yet they helped the Kami in last battle. They're supposed to be a Roleplaying Guild but what do I know? They only seem to Roleplay when its convenient for them. Same for Evolution.

So, yeah, I call them Kaneutral or better "Fake karavaneers"

Ok, so I had a whole lot typed down here, but in the end it didn't make much sense anymore. What it came down to is that I rather think you are the fake Karavaneer and Evolution and Nexus along with others are the true Karavaneers.

I believe we are to persuade as many Kami folowers as possible, rather than deafeating/killing them. If I must fight "Karavaneers" in order to convince the Kaminists that the Karavan issn't evil, I will. If it doesn't work, so be it, but I'm not killing them off. It is to Jena to leave them behind when the time comes.

Note: This is my option, I'm _not_ representing anyone, I'm talking just for myself.
Note2: I'm sorry for any typo's or missunderstandings, English issn't my primary language.

[dbritt]

I too would like to turn all the misbegotten Kami followers to the true path...BUT one question....are you nuts? We have been called to war and contest by our relative Gods, period. If they dont turn on their own, and quickly, then the way i understand it is they die. Am i supposed to sit back and be attacked week after week by people that guess what....want to kill me, and not defend myself...oh wait, guess i could lay there and say "Turn from your evil ways and join the Karavan" before i'm made to spawn....
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I dont have enough info on Evo and Nexus to display an opinions on their guilds here, only what i have personally seen and read...Kara attacking Kara in my opinion is bad business...it just came down to a race thing, if thats the case, dont call yourselves karavan, call yourselves Tryker and be done with it...and say your using the Kara fame for the teleporters....we arent all stupid enough to fall for it all. If your claiming Karavan, but fighting with Kami...then it's simple, your a fake Karavaneer...

H

[ajsuk]

Yeah, its being pinned on the Matis now. Which is racism for a start, and not only that, we're not all Matis based guilds anyway lol.
Like I said before, its all just a joke now.

[kyesmith]

maybe people favour friendship over fraction, if kami attacked evo for example i would be there to help them in a second. Just cos people fight against their own faction dosnt mean their in the wrong, maybe you should look at their reasoning, first off they are helping people they get along with and second it makes the game a bit more fun, how is an OP war amusing when if all karas where against all kami we would be slaughtered
good on all the karas helping the kami, cant thank you enough

[aude03]

Ouch...a karavan attacking another karavan is a fake karavan....and worst if he gets kami help....

Regarding to what happened in 2513, what can i say...? Maybe that i'm proud to be like my beloved Governor Wyler and your King, a fake karavaner


maybe it's just not a faction thing .......

[dbritt]

I have to somewhat disagree, Kye....I've always gotten along with you, heck, i get along with everyone. But would i chose fighting with you against my faction? That kind of defets the purpose of them dont you think, when you choose your sides, it doesnt have anything to do with friendship, it has to do with the side your on. I have absolutely no doubt that people on opposing teams can stay friends, but that doesnt mean that anyone should play for the opposing team against your own just because of convieniance. What we are saying here is not the confusion of opinions of who to fight for, but rather the fact that people claim one side, but fight for the other. Jena has called me, just as MD has called you.

If someone hears the call of Jena, but continues to raise the sword against her followers, then that is just out and out fake. Choose your side because it's what you want to do, and stick with it...dont go back and forth because it's good for your personal gains.

an example....why would a Center snap the ball to a quarterback, then turn around and tackle him....BAH

H

[kyesmith]

I have to somewhat disagree, Kye....I've always gotten along with you, heck, i get along with everyone. But would i chose fighting with you against my faction? That kind of defets the purpose of them dont you think, when you choose your sides, it doesnt have anything to do with friendship, it has to do with the side your on. I have absolutely no doubt that people on opposing teams can stay friends, but that doesnt mean that anyone should play for the opposing team against your own just because of convieniance. What we are saying here is not the confusion of opinions of who to fight for, but rather the fact that people claim one side, but fight for the other. Jena has called me, just as MD has called you.

If someone hears the call of Jena, but continues to raise the sword against her followers, then that is just out and out fake. Choose your side because it's what you want to do, and stick with it...dont go back and forth because it's good for your personal gains.

H

we regard friendship differently then
Yea im a proud kami but that dosnt mean that much, think before fraction became "important", my friends from back then are my true ones, im not going to turn on them mearly cos thats the way the story line is trying to push things.

[grimjim]

Simple solution, everyone withdraw to their native lands only and let the native guilds occupy their own lands.

Then everybody can just get along!

[xeraphim]

If i am not mistaken although generally FvF OP's are also primarily GvG...
Therefore people are completley entitled to fight for whoevers cause they believe in more..

All of you saying "fake Karavaneer" seriously think hard about what you are saying..

Just because someone is Karavan does that make them right to you??
If they did somthing that you did not agree with would you support them?
I should hope not..

This is not all about FvF.. It is Guild vs Guild and race versus race too...

not to mention.. the unwritten battle...

Ideal aginst Ideal..

Think hard guys.. its really quite obvious ...