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just a note to see how the defense phase went,

some people have work and cant wait up till 3am

dakhound wrote:just a note to see how the defense phase went,

some people have work and cant wait up till 3am

Defense phase was won by the soul, after a few rounds consideering the high threashold they got.

*runs off to bug some souls for xp crystals

I hope The Soul are paying the Samsara the auction price on Woodburn after they convinced so many to side with them as the "rightful owners"

Otherwise people may feel a bit manipulated....

sehracii wrote:I hope The Soul are paying the Samsara the auction price on Woodburn after they convinced so many to side with them as the "rightful owners"

Otherwise people may feel a bit manipulated....

how could anyone feel manipulated?

the problems stemming from the op sale were out of the souls control, I fought alongside the souls and I sure dont feel manipulated

either way its for them to sort out

We dont' have Fasinus' word that Soul was the rightful owner, that's the 'may feel manipulated' part above.

The Soul isn't being accused of being responsible for Fasi's ban, he is responsible for that himself .

It's the sudden (from the outside) claim that 'the 'rightful' owner was other than the actual owner, Fasinus' alt character was the only owner that was possible for anyone outside of The Soul or Fasi to know.

The cynical person could look at this thusly:
'Anyone could easily claim that the banned owner's property really was being taken for them.'

To be honest, I dont' get in any way why the Soul didn't declare on the outpost in the first place, why was the alt guild necessary at all? If Samsara wanted to 'keep interference away', they could very trivially ban the defending guilds just like Infinity did when they handed their OP to Citizenz of Matis, this has always been supported with Outposts.

Hopefully, the nonsense with false guilds and alt guilds declaring is behind us. Using imaginary guilds is not necessary when alliances hold resources, if you can trust the HO's in one of the allied guilds then false guilds are not necessary at all. We know right now that either faction will come and defend/attack as needed, making all this imaginary guild unnecessary, and hopefully a thing of the past.

sluggo0 wrote:To be honest, I dont' get in any way why the Soul didn't declare on the outpost in the first place, why was the alt guild necessary at all? If Samsara wanted to 'keep interference away', they could very trivially ban the defending guilds just like Infinity did when they handed their OP to Citizenz of Matis, this has always been supported with Outposts.

Hopefully, the nonsense with false guilds and alt guilds declaring is behind us. Using imaginary guilds is not necessary when alliances hold resources, if you can trust the HO's in one of the allied guilds then false guilds are not necessary at all. We know right now that either faction will come and defend/attack as needed, making all this imaginary guild unnecessary, and hopefully a thing of the past.

This hits the nail on the head... well said !

sehracii wrote:I hope The Soul are paying the Samsara the auction price on Woodburn after they convinced so many to side with them as the "rightful owners"

Otherwise people may feel a bit manipulated....

Hello i'm Simona leader of The Soul guild.


As u all know by now the old Samsara op was brought by KoO -Fasinus guild and The Soul too for others that don't know.

By saturday we was due to take the op as part of the deal between us and KoO.

We paid half of the price for the op and decided to share it between us.

I find the events lately strange and this affects us directly as a guild so no matter what happend with this ''fast'' declaring war from Cara Via to op we will atack it because this is out of order.

I'm not sure what happend in KoO but we both lost the op and not due to any action of The Soul .

We are asking all our friends kami's and kara's to help us retake the op that we lost without even enjoying the time owning it and then KA and all the others can come atack it because we dont realy mind we just want our moneys worth

-ty all for reading my boring second post-

Why would we pay twice ?

250 mill dapps.
25 stacks ql 250 each week.
flowers whenever ya need.
OP mats, u will get all aslong i have 5 left.
free help for bosshunt.
life time jewels, any ql.
10000 grind mats (whatever ya need).
24 hours free heal out of team.

*creative enough?*

~!Fasi!~

The price it was sold for included many continuous payments- I thought that would continue. If a one-off payment was arranged, ignore me.

sehracii wrote:The price it was sold for included many continuous payments- I thought that would continue. If a one-off payment was arranged, ignore me.

IMO, since the Soul has now won it in open combat from Cara Via, I believe they should be free of any further obligation. But that's just my opinion. After all, if CV had successfully defended it, they would not be obligated to pay any thing to the Samsara.