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marct wrote:Beyond that, you may wish to examine the treaty recently signed by all four leaders of the homin nations. It puts your initial allegiance to your Faith, and your secondary allegiance to your nation.

By their words and acts, Omega V showed us how they managed the first part of the new treaty, let it be, lets go to the second part...
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danolt wrote:For those that dont know, the outpost were given as a reward from the factions to those who built the temples.
Sorry gotta disagree with you there. They were opened as an continuance of the conflict started with the temples. Read the loading screen, the Nexuses that the OPs sit on give the kami/Karavan more power. To paraphrase the text (since I can't remember the exact wording) - whoever controls the Nexuses controls the whole of Atys.

They're not a reward, they're another tool in their war.
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katriell wrote:You can't "complete" the mainland. If one thinks one has seen or done everything there, one is kidding oneself. But be prepared to "get out what you put in," because the mainland does not coddle or hold hands.
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sprite wrote:Common decency would suggest they would not attack someone who has defended them :rolleyes:
Well yes there is that too. :rolleyes:
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katriell wrote:You can't "complete" the mainland. If one thinks one has seen or done everything there, one is kidding oneself. But be prepared to "get out what you put in," because the mainland does not coddle or hold hands.
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I for one can attest to the fact that the produce of Whirling Stronghold has been shared selflessly to Tryker guilds as well as Tryker members of other Karavan guilds. Would you deny the many Tryker members of my guild, including the Reaper's estemed leader, access to these goods so as to hold them for yourself and your small guild? I dare say there are more Karavan Tryker belonging to the "KA" then outside of it-and as such you are doing your people as a whole a disservice.

For all intents and purposes, the outposts held by a "KA" guild are not their possession at all. The resourses gathered are distrubted freely to all who's faith in Jena is true and are willing to show so. This includes Matis, Fyros, Tryker, Zorai. We see no divisions of race, only Jena's light.

I thought Nexus had seen the benefits of joining us in our common goal. They came in the form of 1 to 1 trades, assistance at outpost defense, and others. But perhaps you felt we were still being greedy, or maybe you do not wish to share at all.

So go ahead and make your attack, we will hold no ill-will towards you. Though I'm sure you know relations will be different from now on. And know I will be there in defense of Whirling. I will fight as if it were my own outpost. I will fight alongside my Tryker brethren- for them and for Jena.
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aude03 wrote:
marct wrote:Beyond that, you may wish to examine the treaty recently signed by all four leaders of the homin nations. It puts your initial allegiance to your Faith, and your secondary allegiance to your nation.

By their words and acts, Omega V showed us how they managed the first part of the new treaty, let it be, lets go to the second part...
I missed that first time round, and I have to say that assumes you agree with the treaty. Personally I don't, no-one tells me where my allegiance lies.
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katriell wrote:You can't "complete" the mainland. If one thinks one has seen or done everything there, one is kidding oneself. But be prepared to "get out what you put in," because the mainland does not coddle or hold hands.
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arfindel wrote:I am here to witness that reading and hearing your complains I looked around and easily seen you were the only ones complaining.
Well since we're bringing anecdotes to the party...
[cuddly rp thingy] I myself took a little trip to Fairhaven one day, my bag heavy with crystals from our cosy little Psykopla knoll in the Forest. Pero and Riveit's words were in my mind as I teleported there and walked over to the stables... 'Surely these Trykers can't be as underpriviledged as they say, it can't be much different to fair Yrkanis' I thought to myself.

When I arrived at the stables, there were the usual suspects milling around... Xythus looking suspicious as always, some people fresh off the islands, and others in the always-popular lurking positions around the place. So, I filled my lungs and yelled out at the top of my voice "Free q50 crystals at FH stables!". [/cuddly rp type thingy]

No sooner had the words left my lips than I was bombarded with /tells and requests, both in /around and in /region. Members of many guilds, yours included Faa, were almost begging me for the crystals. From that day onward I have never doubted claims of the 'situation' in the lakelands. :(
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danolt wrote:Many of the crystals AA hands out to the other Tryker guilds come from the KA. Before we joined the Karavan Forum (which is a much better description of what we are about) we looked to other Tryker guilds for trade. We did not have much look, for example Evo wanted 30 supreme boss mats that had at least one major quality maxed out, per stack. We found only one Tryker guild that would trade with anything close to a fair deal, based on time to get the trade resource and the XP bonus of the crystals. I would name them, but I am sure they would be attacked by these "Tryker" guilds for doing it. Pero
You really have to talk with Riveit, or re read your "second letter to Fairhaven" post...
Nexus gave (for free) op mats and flowers to your guild, and since you have your op, our rate trade is 1:1 for crystals.

But i understand Pero, forgetting that is a real good argue to not even think about our action.
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philu wrote:I missed that first time round, and I have to say that assumes you agree with the treaty. Personally I don't, no-one tells me where my allegiance lies.
It would be a shame to stick to something all the time wouldn't it. I mean it would be so hard to dissagree and pick away at the people you dislike when your always on the same track. :p
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There is another reason Faa, I am not saying these guilds do not share with other Tryker guilds, I never have, they don't like me.

The reason, we declared on a Kami Tryker outpost in the Lake Lands to avoid this whole problem we are facing now. Even with the (my unsanctioned) cancellation of our attack these guilds will not let it go.

Putting a Kami outpost on our only border to Matis was an open invitation for them to come in. As hard as you wish it, there is not a Kami temple in the Lakelands, Trykers built one for Jena.

As a side note, I am glad to see Nexus step up and start playing episode 2. This attack was long overdue.

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ajsuk wrote:It would be a shame to stick to something all the time wouldn't it. I mean it would be so hard to dissagree and pick away at the people you dislike when your always on the same track. :p
If I could actually make sense of that I might assume you're having a dig. Don't go there. ;)

What I meant, in case it isn't clear, is that these people (the 4 leaders) are trying to tell me how my allegiances will fall and I will not let them. Did they consult us before drawing up these rules? No they didn't.

My allegiance is to guild, race then faction in case you're wondering.

Any way we're straying off topic now. :rolleyes:
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katriell wrote:You can't "complete" the mainland. If one thinks one has seen or done everything there, one is kidding oneself. But be prepared to "get out what you put in," because the mainland does not coddle or hold hands.
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