Ryzom

dbritt wrote:It wasnt aimed at you personally, but the last three threads of this.



This is what i've been saying....they are your views, and I feel, as do others that have quite posting here, that we are trying to be converted to your way of thinking....it is your game, it is my game. Dont play my game, obviously you wont like it, play your own. But don't try to push your views down everyone elses gullet with one or two other people posting and posting and posting about the same thing...you have stated your view, as have I....stop, as will I.

H....again and done

bla you should read all before you respond as I like to PvP !!!!!! SO that voids this stupid coment about me trying to force my views ....This is exactly what i was talking about with people not even atempting to be understanding...

Seems like alot of fuss about nothing...

AP used some alleged forums posts to claim they were under attack (when they weren't). Since then many threads have been made (some locked) and the Kami's have attacked us once again. We have been quiet and have not attacked anyone in a long while to keep the peace. Yet the neutral guilds once again choose sides with the Kami and intend to be aggressive to us and expect us not to defend ourselves.

Many other chime in and mix the issues... Bottom line is the Karavan allied guilds are once again under attack by the Kamists and neutrals (aka quasi-Kami). We will defend ourselves and note the names in attendance and act accordingly when the smoke clears.

There will no longer be a reason to keep the peace, the Kamists already broke that...

as far as i know this thread any of my post have to do with the attack on my guilds OP AT ALL!

OH and to say the kamist broke the peace ROFL !!!!! kara planed the attack not kami

And dazman don't be discuraged by this man there are plenty of people that agree with you 100% and once everyone leaves and the game falls through they will finnaly realize

Zahan, you probably need to be more specific, if you can. I'm thinking the actual PvP isn't your problem, and as with myself, it's the knock-on effect it has all over the game - from friends, enemies, guild bickering, and petty arguing/ego buffing over who killed who first, and who's on the KoS list.

If you're not specific, you'll get caught in the "don't like it don't particapate" circular argument - specifically one of the things that blows my top with PvP players. It isn't about the moment, it isn't about taking part, it isn't even about being anywhere near the PvP - it's the shockwaves that reach out from certain PvP players out to everyone else. And it's not everyone, although you'll probably have to bold that part like I did.

vguerin wrote:Yet the neutral guilds once again choose sides with the Kami and intend to be aggressive to us and expect us not to defend ourselves.

*shrugs* I haven't launched any attacks. The only attacks I have been involved in on the attacker sides are:

OP transfers between consenting guilds

Band of Hawks/Whirling Stronghold round 2, when I was paid richly

Last time I checked the only OP declarations involving Neutrals are CoM declaring on _us_.

Oh, and Heavyn, Dazman is quite correct, I enjoy _some_ PvP, I take part in OP battles out of a sense of obligation to my allies (karavan _and_ kami) and because I am paid to so there are RP reasons as a mercenary character, not because it is my favoured form of PvP. I am currently more interested in seeking alternatives to PvP for those that do not enjoy it (which makes up a large proportion of my friends in this game).

So yeah, I don't hate PvP, I hate PvP resulting in my friends leaving the game. Please read my posts if you wish to comment about them.

vguerin wrote:Seems like alot of fuss about nothing...

AP used some alleged forums posts to claim they were under attack (when they weren't). Since then many threads have been made (some locked) and the Kami's have attacked us once again. We have been quiet and have not attacked anyone in a long while to keep the peace. Yet the neutral guilds once again choose sides with the Kami and intend to be aggressive to us and expect us not to defend ourselves.

Many other chime in and mix the issues... Bottom line is the Karavan allied guilds are once again under attack by the Kamists and neutrals (aka quasi-Kami). We will defend ourselves and note the names in attendance and act accordingly when the smoke clears.

There will no longer be a reason to keep the peace, the Kamists already broke that...

Uhhmmm...From what I have read in all the Recent Threads...it was PF that Broke the Peace... Declaring on AP... And if I read things Correctly PF Confirmed they are Declaring on AP... Just my 2cents on the whole deal

One of the problems I'll say is the fact that no typed text can direct feeling, attitude or stand accuratly. So maybe there is some missunderstanding here...could be, fact of life

bla you should read all before you respond as I like to PvP !!!!!! SO that voids this stupid coment about me trying to force my views ....This is exactly what i was talking about with people not even atempting to be understanding...

dont make it personal, but your still posting about it also

Redslayer
If I wanted PvP on a world wide scale id play WoW

your choice

I am a nice person in game, I help anyone, as do 99% of the people in the community, that is what makes it here...2-3 people posting and reposting about the same stuff, not on one, but three threads is enough.

I plead with you, take it back to topic....multiple attacks. The original topic was the fact that in retribution to a planned attack, someone took the time to make an alt, transfer money around, get to where they needed to go and declare on multiple targets...without the bravery of a real name. And to think, I thought I heard someone call PF cowards in another thread.


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And Red, I know what you did for me in nexus, I would do the same

raisrev1 wrote:Uhhmmm...From what I have read in all the Recent Threads...it was PF that Broke the Peace... Declaring on AP... And if I read things Correctly PF Confirmed they are Declaring on AP... Just my 2cents on the whole deal

Talk is talk... they hadn't declared on anyone. The Kamists struck first...

vguerin wrote:Talk is talk... they hadn't declared on anyone. The Kamists struck first...

-.- .....lol.....there was a clear post in the kara allience forums on the attack it was going to happen so kara broke the peace ..

Heavyn tho are views are diferent,I hold nothing against you don't get me wrong..

As for the multi attacks iv already clearly stated that it can't be fixed by doing the same..I was hoping that it would not be the case ...but seems I was wrong.And now there is even more multiple attacks so that makes the complaining parties that declared hypocrics sorry :/

P.S.I played WoW after I had started ryzom I came back to Ryzom quickly because of how foolish PvP made people there ....in the end PvP has entered Ryzom and is slowly doing the same here ..You can say what you want but the people that havn't noticed the change are the people that have changed

My problem is not someone attack me and i dont cry because im under attack. I can play w/o outpost, most ppl in server know this and know how i think about this thing (outpost).Btw this is the 4th time someone do that at one of my OP i always send ticket and tell GM about this and they cant anything.So fine lets see how now they will deal whit so much ppl in game going sit in their OP for nothing or not.

my problem is :

1.Create a guild (false), kill all politic option in game.
2.Guild whit probably 1 member attack 3 high OP, no sense for me.
3.Attack 3 OP at the same time/date some ppl call this tactic, ok fine so next time i want attack someone i can declare war on 6 OP and annoyed 5 guilds for nothing ... buttt heyyy this is a tactic sorry about scrap 2 hour of your life.
4.To ppl who think this is a tactic, you need to know this multiple attack just bring more ppl in game at this time and when you attack one of them after you cry you are outnumber.

Finaly i do that for make some reaction in game and of course here.This thread is nothing about PF or AP or Kami/Kara but more about mechanic OP and show how is easy Stunt this server whit Multiple Attack.So please lets talk about the Topic.

And humm (Karavan haters) allowed by CoC ?

-Padawan