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Re: Is harvesting in Roots still possible after todays patch ??

Posted: Wed Oct 06, 2004 10:06 pm
by shrike
Maybe you should cosult the dictionary about "hunting". It basically means killing animals for stuff. Ryzom is a hunter-gatherer culture - in those (believe it or not) the hunters main popuse wasn't to protectthe gatherers, but to supply the village with meat and other animal products. Just as the job of the gatherers was to supply the villiage with plant products.

I am perfectly willing to verify my claim of supreme mats by a screenshot with me finding one with a chatwindow with a char of yours to proof that it is a recent screenshot. Just tell me a name to contact....


/edit: Little update: A field of choice/supreme from today early afternoon was excellent only when I checked now, one field of choice disappered entirely. Will rechack tomorrow if these field change again.

Re: Is harvesting in Roots still possible after todays patch ??

Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2004 12:21 am
by svayvti
and please note that "hunting" is nowhere in the games literature. People don't play hunters, they play fighters with skills (not for quartering) but for ... duh killing.

But do please to continue to show us how far you'll stretch the profession to show they exist entirely for gathering materials :rolleyes:

Re: Is harvesting in Roots still possible after todays patch ??

Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2004 1:08 am
by shrike
Ah, beginning to find no arguments anymore so you are now targeting words?

Re: Is harvesting in Roots still possible after todays patch ??

Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2004 2:42 am
by ozric
Can we keep to the topic of "Harvesting in the Roots" pls ?
If you want to continue your little flamefest could you do it elsewhere . :rolleyes:

Re: Is harvesting in Roots still possible after todays patch ??

Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2004 4:06 pm
by Eshin
Updated report:

Getting to the roots without teleport ticket can be done. My guildmate did it yesterday alone, in Abyss of Ichor. When inside, just keeping your distance to patrols (and having radar on 250m) will suffice.

As for the mats, I found plenty of supreme mats already, and even more choice/excellent. Getting supreme so far is based on luck (as it's virtually impossible to interpret patterns or whatnot by yourself) and the EXACT spot you're now digging choice can have supreme, say like, in 15mins for 2mins. When you find supreme you won't be digging it up very long, so might as well try to take as much as hominly possible. Excellent is available for a bit longer than supreme, but is based on the same thing: it's there when it's there.

Re: Is harvesting in Roots still possible after todays patch ??

Posted: Thu Oct 07, 2004 7:35 pm
by shrike
And something from the german forum:

All boss mobs have now "guardian kinchers". I mentioned them before, but did not know under which pattern they were distributed. Once you get too close (which seems to be around 200m) to the bosses the guardian kinchers will attack you. So stay well away from boss sites.

Re: Is harvesting in Roots still possible after todays patch ??

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 12:37 pm
by ruskoff2
harvesting - yes
finding supreme materials - no

the supreme sources are too hard to find because they are f**** small now, they are nearly unpossible to find with the acual prospecting methods, for what is prospecting with supreme materials when you find the choice crap 2mm nearby the supreme source? for what is deposit tracking in combination with searching for supreme materials when it shows you the basic things 1m in front of you?
right, for nothing so i and a lot of other harvesters stoped to go out and finding resources becaus it´s no fun anymore.

the problem is not that the roots are harder now because of kitin patrols and more mobs inside, the problem is that it takes ages to find supreme sources with the methods we have at the moment

nevrax - FIX IT!

greetings from the sunny german server
Ruskoff

Re: Is harvesting in Roots still possible after todays patch ??

Posted: Fri Oct 08, 2004 2:42 pm
by goken
ruskoff2 wrote:harvesting - Yes
finding supreme materials - Yes

nevrax - FIX IT!


Fix what? only problem is see is gettig past the entrance guards then just get to teleporter and buy a teleport, Then from there on Harvesting in the roots is easy, and yes you can find supreme, Surely is me and other guildmates harevst supreme you can also. About the point about chocie and supreme been within 2mm of each other. The way materials are now is you can find choice,excellent,supreme on the same spot, but it goes in cycle as in, for 20 mins you might get choice,then excellent for 10 mins, then maybe 2-3 misn supreme.

Re: Is harvesting in Roots still possible after todays patch ??

Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 6:33 pm
by Eshin
ruskoff2 wrote:the supreme sources are too hard to find because they are f**** small now, they are nearly unpossible to find with the acual prospecting methods, for what is prospecting with supreme materials when you find the choice crap 2mm nearby the supreme source?

All my supreme spots are as wide as the excellent or choice ones, in fact they *are* the same spot. Mostly anyways. It's just that supreme are only harvestable for a brief period of time, then it downgrades back to excellent and eventually to choice, as it is most of the time.

Edit//: Totally agree with goken here, that's exactly how I've experienced the situation.

Re: Is harvesting in Roots still possible after todays patch ??

Posted: Sat Oct 09, 2004 8:09 pm
by larsa
Well, A low-level Tryker's view on the situation:

It seems the last patch didn't really address the situation and thus did not contribute to a more balanced gameplay. Obviously there are still plenty of supreme materials to find and also obviously those people that already have teleport tickets can continue to harvest these materials. The new mobs seem to make it more difficult for new people to enter the prime roots but have little impact for people that already have tickets and spawns in the roots.

That's at least what I've gathered from the various accounts in this thread, please correct me if I'm wrong. Overall it's a bad situation, some races have easy access to q150+ supreme items, others just have q50 choice to use. Also, I believe it's very bad and a sign for unbalanced gameplay that we're able to harvest the best mats available in the game just 2 weeks after release. The reason for that of course is that harvesting got no attention during beta-test (for whatever reason) but that's water under the bridge now anyway.

I have the bad feeling that to rectify this situation rather drastic measures would be needed (much, much, much more drastic than what Nevrax did in this patch) but I'm not sure how the harvesters that currently can harvest in the prime roots would react to that.

Any suggestions about that from you all?