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Re: Speed cap on daggers?

Posted: Fri Jan 20, 2006 8:28 pm
by swe999
Tested daggers: 56 hpm ones

Actual speed for all stanzas, dual or single wield: 35-36 hpm

Tested 22 hpm pistol: 22 hpm default, 44 hpm with hit rate stanza
used 75 cost stanza with level 80 skill

Tested 30 hpm pistol: 30 hpm default, 60 hpm with hit rate stanza

note: seemed off by about .5 seconds at the end, so maybe 59

Re: Speed cap on daggers?

Posted: Sat Jan 21, 2006 12:36 am
by sidusar
Okay, I think we have enough confirmed reports to conclude it's a general problem. Thanks to those who tested it.

I send in a ticket last night and was told it was a known problem. So you can all stop sending in tickets now ;)

I obviously need to do more testing on that hitrate stanza though...

Re: Speed cap on daggers?

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 9:35 pm
by kayak
gah i just got creamed in a dual wiiht a guy who had a 1h sword and was doing 39 tested hpm compared to my daggers at 35 tested hpm.. grr

glad the response to tickets is now 'known issue' rather than 'i'll pass it up' ;)

looks forward to actually doing 60 hpm :D

Re: Speed cap on daggers?

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 9:57 pm
by vguerin
kayak wrote:gah i just got creamed in a dual wiiht a guy who had a 1h sword and was doing 39 tested hpm compared to my daggers at 35 tested hpm.. grr

glad the response to tickets is now 'known issue' rather than 'i'll pass it up' ;)

looks forward to actually doing 60 hpm :D
60 HPM won't make up for the difference in damage and will kill your stam/hp even quicker. You will lose that fight nearly anytime.

Re: Speed cap on daggers?

Posted: Sun Jan 22, 2006 10:35 pm
by lathan
vguerin wrote:60 HPM won't make up for the difference in damage and will kill your stam/hp even quicker. You will lose that fight nearly anytime.
Yup.. if you want to win one try duelling a mage the same lvl with daggers :P

Re: Speed cap on daggers?

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 1:19 am
by rushin
vguerin wrote:60 HPM won't make up for the difference in damage and will kill your stam/hp even quicker. You will lose that fight nearly anytime.
that's actually a very good point. 60hpm might not be a good thing... well i guess if you're out to interupt mages with a low drain action it might be. blah totally contradicted myself, too tired. ignore me ;)

Re: Speed cap on daggers?

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 3:17 am
by kayak
ok fair point that it's not likley to win a dual against a 1h but it would have been alot closer with 60hm. i took off about 1/3 of his life wiht cc.

on another point.. woudl be cool to get say a dodge bonus with them or something same on amps

max dodge is what 260? max parry is 310? (just figures i've hear not too sure may be higher /lower)

Re: Speed cap on daggers?

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 5:38 am
by vguerin
kayak wrote:ok fair point that it's not likley to win a dual against a 1h but it would have been alot closer with 60hm. i took off about 1/3 of his life wiht cc.
Yeah, you'd have done better prolly if it was fixed... and it needs to be fixed.

Re: Speed cap on daggers?

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 7:03 am
by yaten
vguerin wrote:60 HPM won't make up for the difference in damage and will kill your stam/hp even quicker. You will lose that fight nearly anytime.
You could still treat the added attacks as "free" ones and just use the default attack ... it's a bit of extra damage for free over the current situation then.

Re: Speed cap on daggers?

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2006 1:22 pm
by amitst
Its sad when using the hit rate stanza and leveling. WHen your level starts to exceed your stanza you get to watch your bullets come slower and slower ... and ... slower. Until you jack up the stanza of course.