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[magick1]

One thing I've noticed that you didn't mention: If the source explodes or leaks toxic gas, the xp goes down. So if 10 mats gets me 1700 xp, but I use careplan less to get 12 mats and let it blow, I'll actually get less than 1700 xp even though I pulled more mats. If xp is my main goal, fewer mats is preferable to letting the source blow up.

I thought about it, but decided not to include it since the ASCII art would be more messy. It had to include a large sigma symbol (the sum of all) which won't be easy to make, I can make it as a picture if you want it.

Also noticed that even though more mats = more xp, it equals less xp per mat. i.e. take the xp you get and divide it by number of mats pulled. When I get 10 vs. 11, I get more xp per mat for 10 mats. You're equations probably confirm this, but I noticed it as a general thing as well.

Aye, why I suggest you find the harvest exp thread. But it is basically H*(B+V*A) = exp for a extract
H= a value which decrease for each gas leak and explosion. If none H=1
B= Base exp
A= amount of mats
V= value of the class of mat (choice is 73.5 I think)

[thebax]

My method(s)

1) I have max focus
2)I did not, and will not, take the white elephant of a digging rite for source time "bonus"

My usual prospect:
Terrain spec
Material spec
Angle 4 (90 degrees)
Accelerated Prospecting 5
Multiple Spot 7 (10 sources)
Knowledge 1 (just because I'm to lazy to take it out)
Grade Stanza (up to choice, only excellent, etc. Varies depending on what I'm doing)
Counterpart 12 (-500)

I do not use range on this for two reasons. One, I do not like wasting time running from one source to another. Two, if you cast a wide prospect, it will annoy other diggers in the area due to partially depleted deposits. Deposits usually have about 71 mats in them. If 70 are removed, additional sources will be revealed with additional prospects. If 71 are removed, the source will read as depleted. If there are two source nodes of a given mat per digger, all can be constantly busy without touching each others current source nodes, at least at quality level 160+

For times when I'm in a new area, or have forgotten exactly where the nodes are, I use a search prospect with the following specs:

Terrain spec
Material spec (if I'm looking for a specific mat. If I'm just checking out a new source field, I take it out.)
Angle 7 (360 degrees)
Range (up to 7, but I usually have the best luck with 3)
Accelerated Prospecting 5
Multiple Spot 7 (10 sources)
Knowledge 3
Grade Stanza (up to choice, only excellent, etc. Varies depending on what I'm doing)
Counterpart 14 (-750)

Once the sources have been sought out, and I know where they are, I use the first prospect before I start digging. I also use heal focus 10, to cover the cost of the prospect, and, if necessary, the search stanza. It will recharge a little before you have finished digging 3 Q250 sources. Also, before setting pick to ground, I select sources and look at their content, only choosing ones with 20+ mats in them, which, since the source content rounds up, but what is actually pulled is rounded down, means 19+ mats are in the source.

In areas where the Kami tolerance is low, or I'm not alert enough to get fancy I use the following extraction:

Speed 3 Gentle
Rate 6 Agressive
Quality 250 Gentle
Terrain Spec
Counterpart 12

Yield= 16 mats.

You cannot use material spec, due to it costing a piddling 2 points too much for counterpart 12, and counterpart 12 is overall the most efficient at high level. I used to switch out thr rate for Rate 4 Gentle, and add material spec for areas where KT was REALLY low, now I just don't dig them.

For areas where KT is high, and I'm feeling bright-eyed, I start with the following:

Speed 5 Gentle
Rate 6 Aggressive
Quality 190 Gentle
Terrain Sec
Counterpart 12

Then, once I have gotten 9-11 mats (just after the little "10 of Q 190" has floated up is most efficient, but there is a margin for error), I switch to the first stanza to finish up.

Yeild depends on how many times I have to CP
5 times=17 mats
4 times=18 mats
3 times=19 mats

with the additional benifit that, since half of the dig was done at a quaility 60 points lower, you finish a Q250 source in the time it would take to dig a Q220 source.

In all cases, my CP=
Stability 5
Preservation 5
Terrain Spec
Counterpart 10


There are likely much more effecient methods, and teaming with a CPer is always benificial (except for XP) , but this method is within the capabilities of my modem.

*EDIT*: Forgot to include range in my "Search Prospect" . An excellent example of the mental state in which I only use the first digging brick

OOC:

[sehracii]

I just hit lvl 200 in forest and I'm having a heck of a time figuring out a good combo. I had a nice set up for lvls 190-199 and I think I'll be going back to that because I can't find an efficient use for the new rate and speed and Q.

I'm B@W, so I'll try to describe what the old set up was from memory...

Have about 3800 focus

Rate 5 harmful
Speed 5 harmful
Forest Spec
Q180 gentle
Umm, appropriate counterpart


Until there is a bit of time bar left. I don't look at my focus amount or how many mats I've pulled at that point, just have a picture in my head of how much time is left on the bar.

Then switch to...

Rate 5 harmful
Speed 5 harmful
Forest Spec
Q200 gentle (think 210 fits too)
And a bigger counterpart, hehe.


I prospect with (my) max angle (I hate sources popping on top of each other, it's already a pain trying to identify content), range 1, terrain spec, NO time bonus, knowledge 1 (I never specify what mat to pop, just rely on this, but find the higher knowledges pointless, I'll just start digging if I need more info) and choice only typically (have special prospects for excellent and supreme)


This results in me hitting 3 spots at 13-18 mats per, depending on modes.

I love modes 0 and 2

If I have a CPer I use the same thing, just never need to care myself and I'll pull 21 mats.

I'm mostly working in PR now, but leveling so fast the set up is constantly changing, no point in going into that.


As a side note, didn't a recent Q&A specify that Kami Tolerance doesn't care whether you dig harmful or gentle? That was the reason I switched to all harmful.

[altomesa]

Nice writeup Baxter. Good stuff there, and easy to understand for those of us that are a bit slow (*points at self*).