To all PvPers

grimjim · Post by **grimjim** » Tue Dec 05, 2006 11:33 pm

I would be and have always been perfectly happy with senseable suggestions on other PVE content (of which I enjoy most same the rest) but *****, screaming and throwing toys outta the pram because people who like PvP got some content and then going on to try and change it because they resent the fact they didn't get all the attention for once is retarded.

Its not that so much as what's been given to PvP has been all the toys with no balancing factors. It would/should have been possible to bring things out in tandem so that one type/style of play didn't get a massive boost causing an imbalance.

As I said I like PvE as much as the next person and agree its in desperate need of some loving (which is seems to slowly be gaining with the Lairs, NPCs, Ring etc, thankfully) but I also like and enjoy the PvP and what gets me is this...

I'll give you the Ring.
However...
*deep breath*
I don't think the Kitin Lair or the NPC bosses are really what's needed and they have a lot more in common with the same PvPer mindset than they do others.

Lair is up in the air but if it's just a raid then that really appeals to the acheiver/dominator demographic which is practically identical to the PvPer demographic. You'll just end up with the bugger camped day on day, night on night by the same uberguilds who will get a disproportionate amount of the 'phat lewt' and use it to further extend their PvP domination.

The same goes for the bandit bosses.

It's 'raid' type content.

Alot of people enjoy it and so unfortunately have to be just as loud as the whiners to make sure the correct message is put accross.

'Correct' is a very strong word to use. I think the PvP crowd is disproportionately strident though they have been slowly deforming Ryzom in their own image. You see the same thing in the MMORPG.com forums, there there's a ton of crowing for full pvp full loot games, look at properly conducted surveys (and success rates) and the story is QUITE the opposite.

tigrus · Post by **tigrus** » Tue Dec 05, 2006 11:34 pm

rundll32 wrote:Better for you....not better for me, or plenty of other people.

What about we all introduce a RP day in:
http://hellokitty.er1ca.com/2006/05/hel ... y-mmo.html

JUST FOR JYUDAS!

grimjim · Post by **grimjim** » Tue Dec 05, 2006 11:35 pm

rundll32 wrote:Better for you....not better for me, or plenty of other people.

Then again I have to wonder why the bloody hell you're playing an RPG?

rundll32 · Post by **rundll32** » Tue Dec 05, 2006 11:35 pm

mrshad wrote:The difference is that the Non-PVP idiots are limited in the amount of dammage they can directly cause. Severly limited if they are added to an ignore list.

And the PVP idiots are limited in the amount of damage they can directly cause by the pvp zones. From reading these threads anyone would think we had a state of worldwide always on pvp. In reality outside of ops pvp happens very very rarely.

grimjim · Post by **grimjim** » Tue Dec 05, 2006 11:36 pm

tigrus wrote:Seriously, if you couldnt see that THAT Part was a joke, then you need to take a real reality check!!!

But femto-ocelot, people would do just that sort of thing. So no, it's not funny.

tigrus · Post by **tigrus** » Tue Dec 05, 2006 11:38 pm

grimjim wrote:Then again I have to wonder why the bloody hell you're playing an RPG?

You are forgetting a part:
MMORPG=
massive online multiplayer role playing game

Massive= more then 1 person
Online= self explanatory
MULTIPLAYER= You play against, with, and around other players.
THATS Why he is playing a MMORPG.

kthanks

tigrus · Post by **tigrus** » Tue Dec 05, 2006 11:39 pm

grimjim wrote:But femto-ocelot, people would do just that sort of thing. So no, it's not funny.

yes, and people still push people down water slides when they are clothed, but i still laugh when it happens. Your point being?

grimjim · Post by **grimjim** » Tue Dec 05, 2006 11:41 pm

tigrus wrote:You are forgetting a part:
MMORPG=
massive online multiplayer role playing game

Massive= more then 1 person
Online= self explanatory
MULTIPLAYER= You play against, with, and around other players.
THATS Why he is playing a MMORPG.

kthanks

Massive - lots of people.
Multiplayer - Playing together at once, competition need not be implied or required by this term.
Online - as you say.
RPG - See my previous notes.

If you want to just mindlessly fight then there's a plethora of other options, even ones with scaling experience, progressive equipment and better story/lore support for such conflicts.

grimjim · Post by **grimjim** » Tue Dec 05, 2006 11:41 pm

tigrus wrote:yes, and people still push people down water slides when they are clothed, but i still laugh when it happens. Your point being?

I think you just made it for me far better than I could have put it.

norvic · Post by **norvic** » Tue Dec 05, 2006 11:41 pm

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