Ryzom

And now for a few very important questions:

Are corpses currently lootable?

If not, can you get Death Points?


If not, all you have to worry about then is respawning and your equipment being degraded, right?

Sadly like I posted before hand. I did not get a chance to participate in this, so PvP in this game is completely new.

Can someone answer me those questions please?

Thanks.

All sides had fun, nobody even got dp. Nexus is a PvP area because of Nevrax, not because of Melinoe. You're perfectly justified in complaining about that, but this was an event staged by Melinoe, and an event that furthered the story. This wasn't grief-playing, it was role-playing.

madnak wrote:All sides had fun, nobody even got dp. Nexus is a PvP area because of Nevrax, not because of Melinoe. You're perfectly justified in complaining about that, but this was an event staged by Melinoe, and an event that furthered the story. This wasn't grief-playing, it was role-playing.

Actually I started my complaint when DT threw out his little sad story about how he got killed at the spawn point by a larger group of higher level players and got flamed for it . He chose to play the pvp game and suffered the concequences. Had I not been at work I would likely have been right there helping to kill DT too. I simply feel that it's important to point out that he brought those concequences down on himself, and that there are folks who want no part in these little games that can be made into instant victims if folks don't care enough to think about them.

Nice to see some roleplay in game. Hope this is just the start.

PS Some of you need to lighten up. This is just a game.

bobturke wrote:Nice to see some roleplay in game. Hope this is just the start.

Weren't the other people roleplaying as well?

zyran wrote:They don't want to destroy us.. they would be weaker by far without us.. they just wish to use us, and our lands.. and claim 'unity' so they can do so without working for it.

Eh? Weaker without you? What have you ever done for me?

Use you? ... There's nothing I can't do for myself thx.

Use your lands? My skills in the forest are poor, my skills in the jungle and roots are more than 3 times stronger. I don't care to "use your lands", and I really don't know who does. We like our own.

Unity? Perhaps, albeit temporary. There's alot of anti-pvp sentiment around I guess. I know I can count on alot of Karavan friends to stay cool in pvp areas. But I also know that when the Kami/Karavan send out the battle call for an event, they'll be lining up against me. There's no hard feelings on either side.

Unity without working for it? What work is required? Your characters started the mess which brought the call to unite. For that I thank-you

nothing like a bit of conflict to start the day great read guys, you all sounded like you had a blast keep up the good work.

ARE YOU ALL MAD?

I saw the unfolding of events last night, and the comments being posted in this thread, with a sense of stunned amazement.

ARE YOU *ALL* MAD?

You don't seem to realize the implications of what you did and posted.

*ARE* *YOU* *ALL* *MAD*?

The one aspect of all this that makes sense is that you had fun. That's good. That's what the game is for. This is not sarcasm.

But in every other respect, you are behaving as if you brains leaked out of your ears. At the risk of losing whatever shred of credibility I still have in these forums, I am going to say this. As LOUDLY as I can.

1. What happened was NOT the so-called "open PvP" that the last patch supposedly introduced. What happened could have happened just as well in the Matis arena. In fact it *did* happen in the Matis arena tonight. All that happened last night was that some players killed some players in Nexus. Period.

2. This was an entirely false, fabricated and illusory event. Its sole purpose was to have some people fight each other, just because you could. It was not about guilds, alliances or the defense of territories. It was a child's game within the game. If you ever thought something significant was happening in the cultural structure of the Atys world, you soon found out that it was all in fun. it was meaningless.

3. This was NOT role-playing. Role-playing, in a MMO, means placing your character in the game world and playing your role (that is, performing your function) in the world (fighter, magician, crafter, harvester, or whatever hybrid you choose). It doesn't mean that *you* pretend to be your character, or that you make your character pretend to be you pretending to be someone in the game world. That is called "acting", not role-playing, and you are all very bad actors.

4. The same comment applies to the ridiculous travesties that took place in Yrkanis this week and in the Pyr all-guilds meeting previously. The only difference on these occasions was that they included Nevrax employees pretending to be actors pretending to be characters that were invented for the events, without any prior existence or function in the game world. Without any *role* in the world. Without role-playing.

Shouting "Give us back our homin heritage, you son of yubo offal!" and such like is not role-playing. It is more bad acting. And it is embarrassing to listen to you embarrass yourselves like this.

5. I am astounded that, after a long thread about my suggestion of eliminating DP from the game, in which almost everyone *loudly* proclaimed that the game-play would be too boring to contemplate without the "spice" of a death penalty, you have all suddenly discovered that you could have fun -- much more fun than regular game play, to hear you all tell it -- doing a lot of killing and dying without that pesky DP.

Ask yourself, and answer truthfully: If there had been standard DP in the Nexus region during this fiasco, would you have attended? If you did, would you have stayed after you died once? If you were prepared to accumulate DP for the good of your guild, would you have done it if you had know the whole thing was a stunt? No, I didn't think so.

6. And so this -- this!!?? -- is the much-hyped open PvP? You run around and kill each other because it's fun and there are no consequences? It doesn't matter whether you live or you die? This is somehow more of a challenge? Give ... me ... a ... break.

Please do NOT tell me that there will be consequences in terms of Kami/Karavan fame or some other aspects of genuine game-play. I know this already.

Please do NOT tell me that PvP will matter when some guild genuinely tries to take control of a part of Nexus and its resources. I know this already.

These things may become relevant in the future. If and when they do, there might be a different discussion to have. But they were not relevant last night, so don't even try to drag them into this discussion.

I am glad you had fun. But I think that you, and your guilds, and my guild, should all be ashamed of yourselves for thinking that you had suddenly discovered role-playing, or player conflict, or a new level of challenge.

I think you are mad.

Geez. Haven't you guys ever played network doom? Or other games? Some people killed some other people and harassed them. We didn't like it and harassed them back, killing them some. Good old video game fun. If you're making any kind of big deal or freaking out about it DIE

I ate so much Matis jerky last night I got sick.

*PUKE*

qmodal wrote:3. This was NOT role-playing. Role-playing, in a MMO, means placing your character in the game world and playing your role (that is, performing your function) in the world (fighter, magician, crafter, harvester, or whatever hybrid you choose). It doesn't mean that *you* pretend to be your character, or that you make your character pretend to be you pretending to be someone in the game world. That is called "acting", not role-playing, and you are all very bad actors.

OK, I'm not a big RP fan to be honest, but this comment is *w*r*o*n*g*

Roleplaying is not just 'doing your bit', i.e. fighting, casting, or crafting. That is *playing*, pure and simple. Just like playing an FPS, and just like playing a platform game. You undertake tasks or actions in-game, which the game environment requires/allows you to do. *playing*

Roleplaying *is* acting, and without acting there is no Roleplay. Think about the original Dungeons and Dragons game. The game is purely a set of rules, and maybe some locations and background. It's called Roleplay because the Dungeon Master (in particular) is supposed to be just that - a Dungeon Master, not "your mate Dave". This is how DandD goes without RP:

"Theres an Orc at the end of the corridor, looks quite nasty."
"OK, fire spell then poison I guess."
"Orc Dead. You got some cash."
"Thanks."

You see? Lack of imagination = no acting = no RP - acting has *everything* to do with RP, without it RP would simply not exist.

From dictionary.com:

role-playv. role-·played, role-·play·ing, role-·plays
v. tr.
To assume or represent in a drama; act out: “Participants are encouraged to pass on leads about jobs... and to role-play interview situations with each other” (Hatfield MA Valley Advocate).
v. intr.
To assume or act out a particular role: “When I hire people I role-play with them... to see how they take pressure” (Peter Schrag).
n.
Role-playing.

'Tis a matter of definition - nuff said