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zzeii wrote:Because listening is much better than doing nothing. I'd rather see Atys work together as a whole were something bad to happen, then slowly lose city after city to the Kitins.

Heck, KITINS? We lost to the freakin Gingos and Ragus, dude!
hah hah hah

zumwalt wrote:Seriously, all joking asside, think straight about this for a second folks.
Even though the event coordinator is running the event in Fyros does not mean that the Zorian, Matis or Tryker can't get the information.

Here is the reason.

There are guilds from each nationality that have guild leaders that DO have tickets to Pyr.

Simple?

That brings up a whole other issue that hasn't been touched on. The guilds that have been to other lands are a few select big ones. Now there is going to be a meeting where those guilds have an opportunity to discuss things, while the smaller guilds can't. It once again leads to a system where big guys have the ability to set rules and standards and the little guy is left out.

So, a little over one month into the game the input that my guild has to offer is of no consequence because I most likely would not survive the attempted journey?

I see.

Ahh come on Raynes, This event is not about big vs small or setting rules, its about an impending Kitin envasion.

Besides, our guild only has around 58 members, and we made it with only 20 of them the rest of the people that was with us was from 2 other guilds, Vx3 and OoC.

We all banned together as a working well oiled machine and marched to both Tryker lands and Fyros lands, I think they made it as far as Zoria lands, but I wasn't with them on that hike.

Anyway, this is not a power trip, or suggested otherwise, its about sharing information about an event that is coming up and how we spread the word.

I am just trying to offer an alternative solution to this transportation problem.

In the end, it is the Kitins that will be attacking each city, and how to prepare for it.

You can debate big guild vs small guild till your blue in the face, but when the Kitins attack in the 1000's + in number, all of the big vs small means absolutely squat, because you HAVE to work together to push back the invaders, we did.

zumwalt wrote:Ahh come on Raynes, This event is not about big vs small or setting rules, its about an impending Kitin envasion.

Besides, our guild only has around 58 members, and we made it with only 20 of them the rest of the people that was with us was from 2 other guilds, Vx3 and OoC.

We all banned together as a working well oiled machine and marched to both Tryker lands and Fyros lands, I think they made it as far as Zoria lands, but I wasn't with them on that hike.

Anyway, this is not a power trip, or suggested otherwise, its about sharing information about an event that is coming up and how we spread the word.

I am just trying to offer an alternative solution to this transportation problem.

In the end, it is the Kitins that will be attacking each city, and how to prepare for it.

You can debate big guild vs small guild till your blue in the face, but when the Kitins attack in the 1000's + in number, all of the big vs small means absolutely squat, because you HAVE to work together to push back the invaders, we did.

Basically what it comes down to is there is a meeting that many players and smaller guilds can not attend. Not only aren't the small guids going to have a chance to represent themselves (part of this is for guilds to look for new members) but it also completly ignores any player who is not part of a guild. That is a HUGE problem. You say that when the Kitins attack we all have to work together. Well how do you propose we all work together if only 1/2 of us can be a part of things? It's almost like your saying "When we discuss things, it doesn't matter if you are there but when we fight, we want you to lay your life on the line".

And again I ask you this question... If a meeting can't be arranged where it's possible for all homins and guilds to attend, then exactly why do you think we will have success against the Kitin? Do you honestly think if there is no way for security and escorts to be made available to protect from a few kitin, that we can stand a chance against an army of them?

As much as this is a meeting to ask the small guilds to fight for the large guilds. It is a meeting to convince the larger guilds to fight for the smaller guilds. It works both ways my friends. So whether you as an individual, or your guild can send a representative, the fact is, the meeting will take place, and people will be discussing how they can better protect *you*.

Also please keep in mind, this is one event in a long series of events to come. If you can't make it to this one, we'll see you at the next.

Takashi
Ryzom GM
NA Events Team

raynes wrote:That brings up a whole other issue that hasn't been touched on. The guilds that have been to other lands are a few select big ones. Now there is going to be a meeting where those guilds have an opportunity to discuss things, while the smaller guilds can't. It once again leads to a system where big guys have the ability to set rules and standards and the little guy is left out.

Err... BG and I made it to Pyr on our own. Not only the big guilds are there, some of the small guilds and independents have also made it there. Of course, that was back when they allowed people to sneak. Now that exploration has more or less become forbidden, that may not happen again, granted.

Still, there were some very good points made. Be proactive. Get guilds together prior to the event. Make a list of points. Arrange with the event holder to speak as a Zorai ambassador or two, or Tryker or Matis. Communicate back to your online guild in guildspeak and even the heads of the guilds in teamspeak. Make points as needed. Heck, for the Zorai, you can go to that stage in Zora city and hold a town meeting.

If I didn't have to work then, I'd be all for it. I'd even be offering to act as a communicator and ambassador for anyone who wanted it. Fact is, I can't because of my job, but that's the way it goes.

The world, as it has been pointed out, is a dangerous and divided place. Use the resources you have, and within the context of the game, find solutions. It's an excellent opportunity for story building and alliance building and team building.

Yesterday in Pyr I saw a Tryker and a host of Matis. Your ambassadors are there. Zorai are in Pyr by the dozens it seems. Find these people and work with them. If the game doesn't give you the framwork, as it was pointed out in combat and magic threads, adapt.

Tin.

Takashi wrote:As much as this is a meeting to ask the small guilds to fight for the large guilds. It is a meeting to convince the larger guilds to fight for the smaller guilds. It works both ways my friends. So whether you as an individual, or your guild can send a representative, the fact is, the meeting will take place, and people will be discussing how they can better protect *you*.

Also please keep in mind, this is one event in a long series of events to come. If you can't make it to this one, we'll see you at the next.

Takashi
Ryzom GM
NA Events Team

It's fine that this meeting IS going to take place. Just don't expect the parties that can't make it due to the circumstances beyond their control to just roll over and accept what was said and agreed upon there. I wonder what would happen if the Kitin did attack and suddenly everyone that wasn't a part of this and other meetings just went the other way? Just think about that.

I would be more afraid of the next Patch than a Kitin Invasion, but hey....

thantos wrote:I would be more afraid of the next Patch than a Kitin Invasion, but hey....

LOL - It's funny because it's true.