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Re: Taboo Breaker - Crafting [Spoiler]

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 7:02 am
by nstotler
riveit wrote:I agree with Xyclone. Spoiling the mystery and fun of searching for great recipes is a bad idea.
Only one recipe has been revealed as of now, and as many zun recipes as there is...well ;)


Anyways something I've been interested in is crafts that deviate from the basic rules.
Sometimes (usually discovered during drunken crafting sprees) sup grip/shaft mats seem to offer the greatest boost to the more weird amp combos out there, although it appears as a nerf in the precraft.

Anybody else notice silly stuff like this? :)

Re: Taboo Breaker - Crafting [Spoiler]

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 7:38 am
by gillest
rajron wrote:alright... thought twice and thought i would mention a few things i know.. or rather THINK i know;P

1) the (preview) x 0.8 + 20 = result stat

2) the max preview boost from focus alone to after adding shaft/grips seems to be 15... meaning if you want a 100/100 you need to start with an 85 or higher with just the amber/eyes/shrooms/buds... think you get the point;P
I am not sure what you mean in point 2 but as far as I know boost formula is nearly the same as precraft formula:
(preview + 20) x 0.8 + 20 = boosted result stats

20 been apparently the minimal stat that can be made.

So the extra stat is not linear but will depend of the preview stats...
Preview 60: ((60+20) x 0.8) + 20 = 68 boosted (8 added).
Preview 97: ((97+20) x 0.8) + 20 = 113 (113.6) boosted (16 added)

I think this work whatever you are crafting: PF for armurs, dmg for weap and so on (TBC)

Edit: I Re-read your post and I am talking about something different :)

Re: Taboo Breaker - Crafting [Spoiler]

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 7:53 am
by sidusar
gillest wrote:(preview + 20) x 0.8 + 20 = boosted result stats
If you're talking about rubarn boosts, that would be
(preview x 1.2) x 0.8 + 20 = boosted result stats :)

Re: Taboo Breaker - Crafting [Spoiler]

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 12:57 pm
by gix74
This could be a silly question but, how do you know the value of a postcrafted stat?

Let' say I'm crafting an armor and I've "protection" precrafted stat of 10, then I "know" that postcrafted it should be (10 x 0.8)+20 = 28

If now I look at the armor info window, what will be the number showed after "protection" ? Will it be 28% ?

Re: Taboo Breaker - Crafting [Spoiler]

Posted: Tue Sep 04, 2007 2:53 pm
by blaah
gix74 wrote:This could be a silly question but, how do you know the value of a postcrafted stat?
precraft*0.8+20=postcraft is only valid for magic power/speed stats on amps as amps magic speed/power postcraft value range is 20 to 100.

Re: Taboo Breaker - Crafting [Spoiler]

Posted: Fri Sep 07, 2007 11:42 pm
by chibiarc
The Formula is valid for all conversions. It's just a base value and a range value added to it, the preview numbers are just scaled to the range.

For Magic it is Base 20, Range 0-80, hence our "creepy" "mysterious" "legendary" "ultimate" formula that only "works" with amps.

For HP it's something like this Final = 100+0.9*Preview, no idea bout the range actually. Also depends on the plan used, every final stat has a base and a range, sometimes the base is 0 so the stat is scaled 1:1.

For Jewel resistance it's for example Final = 0 + floor(0.8*Preview), base is 0 but you never notice because the 3 highest values are chosen, you cannot end up with a 0 protection.

Just my 2 cents.

Re: Taboo Breaker - Crafting [Spoiler]

Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 7:21 am
by chibiarc
Jewel Lookup Table

Maximized for HP, Basic Plan 1 material of each = max protections

acid cold rot -
acid fire rot - hash messab/gubani timari/arma
acid shock rot -
acid poison rot - hash beng gubani
acid elec rot - hash messab mektoub/psykopla

cold fire rot -
cold shock rot - soo zun stinga/jubla/frippo/madakam/raspal
cold poison rot - zun beng pha/soo
cold elec rot - zun soo/pha psykopla/bodoc/yelk

fire shock rot -
fire poison rot -
fire elec rot - hash arma psykopla/yelk

shock fire rot -
shock poison rot - zun beng jubla/madakam
shock elec rot - zun mektoub/bodoc jubla/raspal/madakam

poison elec rot -

poison elec acid - sha bolobi psykopla/mektoub
poison elec cold -
poison elec fire - sha yelk/psykopla cratcha/ploderos/lumper
poison elec shock - sha bodoc/mektoub jubla/wombai/bawaab

fire cold acid - pha gubani timari/lumper/arma
fire cold shock -
fire cold poison - pha beng ploderos/lumper
fire cold elec - pha yelk/psykopla ploderos/lumper/arma

shock acid cold -
shock acid fire - cratcha bolobi/messab stinga/raspal/wombai/bawaab
shock acid poison - bolobi wombai/bawaab sha/beng
shock acid elec - mektoub bolobi/messab raspal/wombai/bawaab

poison acid cold - pha beng gubani
poison acid fire - sha/beng bolobi/gubani cratcha/lumper/bolobi

elec acid cold -
elec acid fire - psykopla bolobi/messab cratcha/lumper/arma

shock cold fire -
shock cold poison - soo beng jubla/wombai/madakam
shock cold elec - soo bodoc jubla/raspal/wombai/madakam

fire shock elec -



Jewel Setting Lookup Table

Basic Plan 1 material of each = max resists

desert forest lake - caprice rendor/messab/frippo/arana yelk/ploderos/arma
desert forest jungle - caprice sarina frippo/arana/wombai/lumper
desert forest pr -

desert lake jungle -
desert lake pr - madakam/yelk/arma rendor/bodoc/messab timari/gubani

desert jungle pr - sarina bodoc timari

forest lake jungle -
forest lake pr -

forest jungle pr - sarina saurona mektoub/bawaab

lake jungle pr - silvio madakam/bolobi timari/raspal

Re: Taboo Breaker - Crafting [Spoiler]

Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 11:38 am
by desertt
nice thread :) im not that profesional as u guys but used to have a few weird amp combo's aswel with bones and exc magic focus just dont know which anymore i lost the recipe :(

thing that really helped me is fill a mek with all posible mats u can get just for the heck of testing effects certain mats have on each other i did it for amps

Re: Taboo Breaker - Crafting [Spoiler]

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 2:16 pm
by alisa112
I'm curious to know if there's such a thing as +2 parry MA...and if it's possible to craft +1 dodge/+1 parry LA without boss mats?

Re: Taboo Breaker - Crafting [Spoiler]

Posted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 5:14 pm
by xtarsia
alisa112 wrote:I'm curious to know if there's such a thing as +2 parry MA...and if it's possible to craft +1 dodge/+1 parry LA without boss mats?
MA no,

LA yes.

Though somewhat pointless imo, as you cant take advantage of dodge AND parry at the same time.