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TS gave up the outpost to the comunity OP project! OPless guilds will benefit from it! Which incidently is mostly Kamis!

final60 wrote:TS gave up the outpost to the comunity OP project! OPless guilds will benefit from it! Which incidently is mostly Kamis!

Exactly dear chap. It's basicly doing exactly what it was before but under a cloak of 'charity'.

I don't understand why anyone is upset about the kamist trykers giving their outpost over to the community, which serves hominkind without regard for race or alignment. It is for the good of the greater community.

Is greed a fundamental philosophy of the followers of Jena?

danolt wrote:The Karavan have a different opinion on the value of OP's and allies.

Either the Kami alliance does not value the Demons Diplomatic OP (what an appropriate name) or TS does not value the alliance. There is no other way to see it.

Pero

*yawns*

i can't understand why you and others are so desperate for us to defend our decision. remind me why you need to know, or do you just enjoy spreading bad feelings at every oppertunity?

haennah wrote: Is greed a fundamental philosophy of the followers of Jena?

I believe playing the game as it's intended is whats really important to us. Outposts are designed to be fought over, not permanently feed people cats under this good-deed/charity cloak.

ajsuk wrote:Exactly dear chap. It's basicly doing exactly what it was before but under a cloak of 'charity'.

Still there? Even after Spriteh's guild (which at last check is certainly aligned to the karavan) is even offered the goods proffered by the commnunity.

ajsuk wrote:I believe playing the game as it's intended is whats really important to us. Outposts are designed to be fought over, not permanently feed people cats under this good-deed/charity cloak.

I'll take that as a "yes."

So you are more angry that there is one less thing to conquer is the problem. So it's about ego and greed. Oh my, like the man said:

On your high horse over looking the plains, living in a place where no one remains.

Edit: fixed a typo

haennah wrote:So you are more angry that there is onel less thing to conquer is the problem. So it's about ego and greed. Oh my, like the man said:

haha, you really are clueless arn't you. What I'd like is an enemy that accepts the game as it is. Not one that goes... "oh, we're losing, the game must be broken!". It is what it is, whining, exploiting the system or wanting to change (not including improvments) things simply because your not "winning" is such a piss poor way of going about it.

ajsuk wrote:haha, you really are clueless arn't you. What I'd like is an enemy that accepts the game as it is. Not one that goes... "oh, we're losing, the game must be broken!". It is what it is, whining, exploiting the system or wanting to change (not including improvments) things simply because your not "winning" is such a piss poor way of going about it.

Considering that we have nothing to gain from the community OP I guess my acceptance of things is "broken." I think things that benefit all are better than things that benefit some, especially in a community as small as ours.

If the mechanics were played out as intended, then your little social club wouldnt exist either now would it? All of you so-called friends would be stepping over you for your possesions A community OP is simply an alliance of all peoples. One higher than yours possibly

You either can't A: Deal with a higher social purpose that benefits all or B: People excerise their rights under the current system to create an alliance that lacks the selfishness of yours.

Oh and by the way..since they can do it, it falls in the current game mechanics. So who is crying more, the kami that lose one of their remaining OP's or the KA who are crying because it might be a bad idea to attack something that supplies karavan with goods as well?

haennah wrote: So you are more angry that there is onel less thing to conquer is the problem.

No one is angry. Honestly, no karavaneers are really mad about this.
No one is fuming.
No one is spitting fire.

Some of us think it is a blatant attempt to shield an OP from attack by draping it in charity (and score some cheap PR points while doing it).

Some of us think that team Kami would be better served if the OP were given to a Kami guild willing to defend it. Perhaps that would restore some of the failing fighting spirit.

Most of us think that all of the OPs are in play, all of the time. And while it would be bad PR to take a "community" OP; using this as an avenue of propaganda attack agianst us honestly lowers the point of inertia required to mount such an attack.

A sure fire way to make Team Jena hate the idea of community outposts is to continually use them as a weapon against us.

We learned over Christmas that restraint earns us no points with Team Kami. Please don't teach us a similar lesson about the community outposts.