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Re: What if the NGE comes to "Saga of Ryzom"

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 9:21 pm
by jamela
ark014 wrote:For those interested in MMORPG theory see Raph Koster's website, http://www.raphkoster.com
That has some rivetting reading! Thank you, Amphi.

Re: What if the NGE comes to "Saga of Ryzom"

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 10:01 pm
by ark014
Raph Koster is the father of the pre-CU SWG, and the El Jefe (Big Chief) of the MMORPG world IMHP -- he is the leading advocate of creating online virtual worlds with player economies, player communities, and player interaction.

I saw him at MMO gaming panels at the 2006 World SF Con in Anaheim and talked to him afterwards, he is a great guy. Raph said during the panels that he was ridiculed by fellow SWG Devs when he suggested creating Entertainers in SWG and giving them special powers (mind buffing, mind healing, battle fatigue healing).

Thanks,
Amphiaraus

Re: What if the NGE comes to "Saga of Ryzom"

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 10:30 pm
by katriell
tr808 wrote:Imo it wasnt that usefull, it only proved it to you, a smiple search could have gave u the same answer... this topic has been adressed so many times now.
I doubt GameForge would do a search for it. ;)

Re: What if the NGE comes to "Saga of Ryzom"

Posted: Thu Feb 08, 2007 11:04 pm
by jamela
ark014 wrote:...Raph said during the panels that he was ridiculed by fellow SWG Devs when he suggested creating Entertainers in SWG and giving them special powers (mind buffing, mind healing, battle fatigue healing).
I think that's understandable :p . Just my instant opinion, hehe, although I have a profound admiration for him after reading some of his essays.

Get your ass ingame, Amphiaraus, you have been missed :D .

Re: What if the NGE comes to "Saga of Ryzom"

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 7:27 am
by mithur
katriell wrote:I doubt GameForge would do a search for it. ;)
I don't know... they was at first speaking about make game statistic of almost everythig, witch is a good approach to the knowledge of the game. So, if they are in data-mining mood, I'm sure that before a internal discussion over an issue, they search all the info posted in forums. Is another data source, and a not-so-bad one.

Re: What if the NGE comes to "Saga of Ryzom"

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 11:58 am
by meitemax
Um, reading the first post, hen skip to the bottom, I guess my reply would be the same as anyone else.

1) stop by the accounts page removing all data and filling in fake stuff.

2) Run back to AO? MoM? WoW? GW?

Re: What if the NGE comes to "Saga of Ryzom"

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 5:00 pm
by acridiel
A thing I just realized is, some people, mostly new players strangely, actually seem to want a NGE like change in the game.
Easier MOB kills, easier levelgains, easier whatnots... :(
*sigh*

I think many have been spoiled just by things like the NGE over at SWG.
They never new how much fun the old game was, get bored with the new one, and come over here, expecting the same gameplay.
People from WoW seem to think the same.
It´s a sad thing that they don´t realize that WoW is not the "Measure all" for games just because it´s got the alrgest playerbase yet known to man.
And that "different" Games have a right to exist too.
Especially those that demand a little more "Player-Skill" then just adding up Numbers and timemanaging to get through the next instace to gain the best Loot.

Ryzom is a different Game!
Ryzom will stay a different Game!

CU
Acridiel

Re: What if the NGE comes to "Saga of Ryzom"

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 5:09 pm
by ashling
acridiel wrote:A thing I just realized is, some poeple, mostly new players strangely, actually seem to want a NGE like change in the game.
Easier MOB kills, easier levelgains, easier whatnots... :(
I don't see that Acridiel. While the NGE made things easier to kill (nearly everything could be killed solo, one of the bosses needing two people) but the NGE made gaining levels harder in SWG for everyone except jedi. The original idea for SWG was the game really started after you got your skills and it was part of it that I loved.

.... and every SWG player I've seen come here has disliked the NGE and while they do ask for things from SWG they ask for more sandbox style things like houses and pets not that the game becomes easier.

Re: What if the NGE comes to "Saga of Ryzom"

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 5:43 pm
by acridiel
Yeah, but you knew the original Gameplay ;)

Re: What if the NGE comes to "Saga of Ryzom"

Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 5:54 pm
by ashling
acridiel wrote:Yeah, but you knew the original Gameplay ;)
More people do then people who just know the NGE. SWG has done very very poorly with the NGE to the level where current players complain about the lack of people on most of the servers.