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Re: (Officical CSR response requested) Growing pains...
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 3:17 pm
by grimjim
I'm surprised, again, to see you lot complaining about this since previously, and currently in many cases, you've all been about the letter - rather than the spirit - of the 'law' and about doing whatever the system allows you to do, whether it is right or wrong.
Why the sudden change in priorities and concerns I wonder?
Re: (Officical CSR response requested) Growing pains...
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 3:22 pm
by vguerin
grimjim wrote:I'm surprised, again, to see you lot complaining about this since previously, and currently in many cases, you've all been about the letter - rather than the spirit - of the 'law' and about doing whatever the system allows you to do, whether it is right or wrong.
Why the sudden change in priorities and concerns I wonder?
I am trying to become morally superior like you.
Re: (Officical CSR response requested) Growing pains...
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 3:25 pm
by grimjim
vguerin wrote:I am trying to become morally superior like you.
Excellent!
I look forward to seeing you quit your guild and alliance, stopping being such a hypocrit on the forums and working towards more constructive play. Welcome to sanity and balance and I assume you won't be posting smug and snide insinuations on this thread or any other any more.
Hurrah!
For a moment there I thought it might be because one of these 'minor exploits' might be working against you for once but I'm very glad to see that isn't the case and that it's actually down to genuine concern over the good of the game. What a relief.
Re: (Officical CSR response requested) Growing pains...
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 3:32 pm
by ajsuk
I can only but laugh and wonder if you've ever taken the time to read your own drivel and abide by it.

Re: (Officical CSR response requested) Growing pains...
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 3:34 pm
by cygnus
vguerin wrote:
Yet the conduct in question is going on @ Woodburn between Team Spirit and The Souls... We'd just like to know if it's okay for players to block OP's in this fashion...
I'm not entirely sure you could ever really prevent the above from happening. To me it is a cheap way of improving the threshold of your op and yes it does block attacks and as such could be deemed an exploit but it is comfortably happening within the mechanics of the game.
If the parties concerned are happy with themselves and the reputation this then might portray about their guild then so be it. If others were then to copy their tactics they at worst face being tarred with the same brush. Other than self made player/guild sanctions within the game I still cant see a way you could ever really stop it happening.
Dammned if you do, dammned if you don't in a way.
Re: (Officical CSR response requested) Growing pains...
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 3:36 pm
by grimjim
ajsuk wrote:I can only but laugh and wonder if you've ever taken the time to read your own drivel and abide by it.
A textbook example of the succinct comment in error I mentioned elsewhere.
Re: (Officical CSR response requested) Growing pains...
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 4:13 pm
by rothimar
I'm not confused, you discuss that you guys could use the benefits from the exploit, then ask if there is a problem with it. That implies, whether you intended for it to or not, that you wanted to use the exploit. The rest of your post seems to indicate that "everyone else is, and if you can't beat em, join em". If that is not what you intended to say, then thank you for clarifying.
vguerin wrote:Your confused somewhere, two seperate issues... one was already answered by Marjo thankfully. Are you not reading except what you quote ?
We won't be a party to what doesn't seem right, but would like to know if it's considered an exploit so we can avoid asking others not to do it.
Yet the conduct in question is going on @ Woodburn between Team Spirit and The Souls... We'd just like to know if it's okay for players to block OP's in this fashion...
Re: (Officical CSR response requested) Growing pains...
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 4:14 pm
by rothimar
vguerin wrote:I am trying to become morally superior like you.
There is nothing wrong in striving to be right. It's when one strives to be superior that one falls into wrong.

Re: (Officical CSR response requested) Growing pains...
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 4:27 pm
by ajsuk
jamela wrote:I think DT is asking this because, while his guild and allies have refrained from behaviour that they see as exploitation, they have seen others take advantage for a long time, without any repercussions or complaints. Hence the request for an official line.
Again, I think you'll find this is a perfect quote. Whats wrong with asking a question?
Re: (Officical CSR response requested) Growing pains...
Posted: Sat Oct 28, 2006 4:36 pm
by grimjim
ajsuk wrote:Again, I think you'll find this is a perfect quote. Whats wrong with asking a question?
What's wrong with saying what you mean from the start without all this obfuscation and sloping around?