Player/faction numbers at malmont

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Re: Player/faction numbers at malmont

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Mifffo is Kami.

Beepe showed up about 1/2 way in to take my spot in the Kami ranks.

sprite wrote: You also have Acidhell in the Defending list (hes in The Soul and got removed from the battle early on for exploiting the "neutral rezzer" bug),
Poor Acid. It was his first OP fight.



It would be interesting to put levels next to people. That seems to make a huge difference.
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Hmm one thing that springs to mind about a possible innaccuracy in the count (not that it could be expected to be perfectly accurate anyway) is caused by spawning people not being counted (is this only people who are "mid-spawn" and thus nowhere, or does it include deads?). Due to the fact that overall the defenders were winning the fight, it seems likely that more attackers than defenders were spawning at any given time (with a couple of exceptions when we almost/did get kicked off the center). Because of this the attacking numbers will be reduced slightly...

Not a huge effect I'm sure but I found it interesting what with the server being down and nothing else to occupy my brain :o
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algcs wrote:It would be interesting to put levels next to people. That seems to make a huge difference.
hehe it would, but its hard enough finding out who fought for who never mind how useful they are

I'm not a great fan of this thread tbh in disecting the information to show who is right and wrong. I just look forward to the next battle and hope it will be as fun.

I will work out from my screenies numbers for those interested tho
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Sineala - TS, attacker
>>> FAA - TS <<<
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algcs wrote:
It would be interesting to put levels next to people. That seems to make a huge difference.
well if people remeber episode 1. that had a level system for homins. i wonder where that went?

lol tho most people nowadays would be 1 black* purple ;)

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ffxjosh wrote:well if people remeber episode 1. that had a level system for homins. i wonder where that went?
Probably got turned off because 250 diggers who's max combat lvl was 100 still got 2 blackstar purple tags :p
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sprite wrote:Hmm one thing that springs to mind about a possible innaccuracy in the count (not that it could be expected to be perfectly accurate anyway) is caused by spawning people not being counted (is this only people who are "mid-spawn" and thus nowhere, or does it include deads?).
Dead people show up, spawning people do not AFAIK (since they effectively vanish from the region and re-appear at the portal about 75% - 99% of the way thru loading from what I have seen)...

However most people "mid fight" tend to hang around a bit dead to see if they can get a res before spawning. (Watch your team window during a near wipe to see how this goes).

There is also the possibility that /who does not display _everyone_ all the time in a crowded region. I've seen weirdness when using /who where it says a buncha names, then "now displaying players in region xxxx" then finishes the list of names.

I think the list we have now is about as representative as we are gonna get short of a formal line-up and head count at the start/end of a battle, or some GM/Guide tool that shows statistics on these things (and the GMs/Guides have always been reluctant to release statistics on player numbers).

Overall what we saw was the Kami made a major effort and, with the help of some hired mercs/neutrals and a few Kara came _very_ close to matching what I would consider fairly "average" Kara numbers. The issues seem to be that that kind of commitment cannot be expected from one side only on every battle.

This attack on the Kami side was pre-planned and organised, most Kami guilds were contacted in advance (we were hired in advance too, though unrelated events affected our attendance and delayed it til about 30 minutes into the battle.)

As for Kara organisation, since I have no data I can only assume this is everyone they had been able to contact in the 24 hours or so warning they had that could make it, resulting in a mid-level turn out.

Therefore, unless this is the start in the reversal of attendance trends we can see that the Kara still retain a numbers advantage, though it's not as great in this case as it had been in the past due to an upsurge in Kami PvP enthusiasm.


In closing:
Personally I would love to see this kind of battle happening more often though with _slightly_ closer numbers (a full team of 9 people at last count is a fairly big diff when you have maybe 6-7 teams on a side), since with numbers that close a small team of mercenaries can more easily swing the balance... so we can charge more. Oh, and even battles = even numbers of OPs (so both sides can afford to pay more), and less trashtalking and more fun :)
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dhalia wrote:As KoO count themselfes as uberhomins, we have to count each of them as 2 :D
LOL! muhahaha :D
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aardnebb wrote:
Attackers
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Geniastrid (kara)
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Attackers
Kaetemi
Threbus (Kara)
Cecil
Vixen
Ami
Uliaryn
Spiritus
Jackoba
Trini
Itsmagic
Keera
Juko
Tyilin
Vinnie
Ryz
Abscool
Gloife
Xeraphim
Goupi
Faa
Jaawa
Biestable
Hunterx
Theharvester
Ffionnys
Reka
Sheenathecat
Mrsno
Troxa
Erbauer
Littletiger
Luvia
Vitae
Uzir
Ketelone
Bricktop
Mikeg
Tanax
Jeru
Acidhell
Dior
Ladyflagg
Pyrrah
Mifffo
Sineala
Keldorn
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46

Defenders
Kibs
Tyrisha
Exisstenz
Numaa
Ulgar
Aajolea
Toramo
Ciridemarr
Rundll
Anders
Jayce
Sehraci
Jehlia
Rocci
Floode
Hinokee
Greenivy
Tshael
Jocker
Dallae
Tankey
Mardock
Moonbabe
Xxanderx
Starstriker
Tehialyn
Sasa
Pacaryl
Spriteh
Millya
Shadowblade
Ambika
Lexsi
Eclipsis
Pyreta
Aleksey
Porthos
Sharonie
Dhalia
Alani
Rol
Lexs
Efesteus
Kimpan
Hans
Thian
Ellex
Beccas
Gweneth
Zukevem
Dakeyras
Sonej
Rahovart
Simone
Lyam
Carnie
Chantia
Patri
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60

Unknown
Martin
Ason
Shamed

Not involved
Azad
Xycox
Daemion
Telstar
Geniastrid
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