Ryzom

After reading all of this thread (and being slightly bored at work ) thought i'd share my views:

YES the Kami are stupily out numbered, but surely thats half the fun? Sure from time to time it can be unbareable and annoying, but alot of the time its fun. like PvP or getting to the bosses first after season change. Or when all the kami get the sup nodes. Outnumbered, but not outgunned. Thats how i see it, and personnaly i love it.

TBH (and i dont wanna sound rude here) but what does zysha have to do with the OP now? Like i know and appeciate the fact that the OP was gievn to her, and then she gave the op to eley. So now what eley do with the OP is surely not much to do with her business? I know that the OP was origninaly desgined to have a sharing purpose etc etc but alot has changed since then. so why does the original manafesto still stand?? surely the future guilds were gievn 'artistic licence' to change things as they saw fit?

Just my 2 dapper.. now back to work..

Tyilin

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0balgus0 wrote:And lastly, what is so bad about helping and sharing with others, Kami or Kara or whatever? I don't know if this is a RP thing... it's all just made up, digital cults... no need to get frustrated over it.

Bahtan this is intended with the greatest of respect to your playstyle and not intended in any way as a flame but we are not playin Pacman here.

There is indeed a large RP thing to most of what goes on, RL I try not to get wound up about things, even issues i care about, but here is different. From my perspective I care primarily about the unity of the lakelands and will fight and get cross and steamy if its threatened, for others it may be Faction.

The original concept of the distribution of assets from the OP was a good and noble one and I see it as good in an RP sense from a nuetral guild aswell but will always hold niggles for some who play too more dedicated faction lines.

Since it keeps getting said that "almost all" of the ppl on the list are karavan lets have a quick look..

1. Needed Storage and Friends - Zysha, neutral

2. Guardians of Life - Neva & co, non-"KA" karavan (being specific since people seem to think that karavan = "ka" unless you're talking about trykers )

3. Solo guild crafters: Anissa, Petej, Braveganzar, Aajolea, Sinister - Karavan, Neutral/Kami (depending on which alt), Kami, Karavan, no-longer-playing

4. Out of Cavern - the ppl who were mainly active at the time are now kami

5. Eleytheria - Neutral/Kami as in the rest of the thread

6. Veni Vedi Vici - Neutral

So... lets see now; 3 neutrals, 3 karavan, and 3 kami. How about that?

final60 wrote:If everyone else came to fight with the rest of us at OP battles, without question, or " I don't know I'm friends with this guy or that", or " I can't I'm digging", or " My guild isn't into OP battles". If there wasn't this degree of idleness, then the Karavan wouldn't be occupying our land. If you stopped thinking as individual guilds and thought of us all as Kami, together. If we worked together as a unit, we wouldn't have the problems we do. Every individual Kami will make a difference. Don't think otherwise "They don't need little old me for help", because we do.

You chose to become Kami, don't act Nuetral. Help the guilds of the same faction as you, when they need it.

You forget that some of us don't blindly follow the Kami or any Kami aligned guild. Personally I question the motives of the Kami almost as much as I do the motives of the Karavan. I see no benefit to be gained from Homin killing Homin. Where are the Kami and the Karavan during these OP battles? Sat on the sidelines watching their puppets fight their war for them, that's where.

final60 wrote:I've been around along time.

So have I mate, wanna do the breakdance together?

Nah your alright mate. Dont know who you are, sound like a mug to me. You sound nuetral to me. If you are Kami, your exactly the problem that we have.

And err I ve been round alot longer then you too

* Man I shouldn't be aloud on these forums at 4am..

sprite wrote:Since it keeps getting said that "almost all" of the ppl on the list are karavan lets have a quick look..

1. Needed Storage and Friends - Zysha, neutral

2. Guardians of Life - Neva & co, non-"KA" karavan (being specific since people seem to think that karavan = "ka" unless you're talking about trykers )

3. Solo guild crafters: Anissa, Petej, Braveganzar, Aajolea, Sinister - Karavan, Neutral/Kami (depending on which alt), Kami, Karavan, no-longer-playing

4. Out of Cavern - the ppl who were mainly active at the time are now kami

5. Eleytheria - Neutral/Kami as in the rest of the thread

6. Veni Vedi Vici - Neutral

So... lets see now; 3 neutrals, 3 karavan, and 3 kami. How about that?

Isn't Out of cavern, Venividi vici Karavan? Elethera are Kami.

final60 wrote:Nah your alright mate. Dont know who you are, sound like a mug to me.

That's it, resort to personal abuse to prove what you are.

final60 wrote:And err I ve been round alot longer then you too

Wanna bet? Check the joined dates. You Jan 2005, me Sept 2004. And I was in beta, were you?

Yes . Since April 04

*meh personal attack meh, I read some of your posts over time. Proper Patronising moron, same with sprite. /kick in the balls

final60 wrote:Isn't Out of cavern, Venividi vici Karavan? Elethera are Kami.

OOC is technically karavan, but afaik they aren't playing anymore. The people who were playing at the time (Lath and Sek) are now Kami. If you wanna count Eley as kami instead of neutral then that makes it 2neutral/3kara/4kami so you're even less right

V3 is definately neutral.

final60 wrote:Yes . Since April 04

Then I'd expect you to have more respect for other players.

You beat me by a month.