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Re: Poll: Do you enjoy PvP

Posted: Fri May 26, 2006 7:15 am
by dakhound
easy answer for me,
PvP = good,
griping about getting killed in a pvp area/while tagged up = bad
getting constantly owned in yrk due to odds of 6vs2 = funny

Re: Poll: Do you enjoy PvP

Posted: Fri May 26, 2006 8:12 am
by aardnebb
iwojimmy wrote:I dont enjoy Player vs Player in a persistant world which we were supposed to be rebuilding - not tearing apart, where i am placed in the position of being a bully and murdering people incapable of defending themselves, then being killed while I am trying to do something else, in an escalating cycle of revenge killings... where a fair fight is so rare it gets massive raves in the forums... and still offends people..
Very nicely put. Fair fights or ones so close its within touching distance (like the one in Void where the attackers needed a threshold of like 14 and got 13... so close!) are great fun.

Ganking, massive differences in strength of 2 forces, or "obligatory" PvP are all negative experiences from my perspective.

"Do you enjoy PvP" (yes/no answers only) is like saying "do you like eating icecream and having someone stomping on your foot?"

Re: Poll: Do you enjoy PvP

Posted: Fri May 26, 2006 10:19 am
by grimjim
elijstar wrote:Gosh so many neurotic answers. Either you like it or not. There is no in-between. He didn't ask on what terms you actually DO it, just if you like it or not.
That's why it's not a good question the way it's presented.
I chose to answer it in the context of the current setup in this game but there are instances in which it can be fun.

Re: Poll: Do you enjoy PvP

Posted: Fri May 26, 2006 10:31 am
by archaeos
grimjim wrote:... but there are instances in which it can be fun.
Is this what u define under fun ...Sitting down with a big bag of popcorn on the front seats watching the Firework from the OP battles with a bottle of firewine in the other hand at the Illuminati or Theseos-Bar big screen ,with some of my guildies dancing next to u and another sitting on your lap when Kyerna is to her Pyroware-evening ...U got taste ....

(If anyone wonders why their guild always need so many dappers ....Gambling and girls of course ....But please don't tell Kos ...she isn't aware of it...

*Bets can be placed at Jyudas ...Inscriptionbulletins u can retrieve at Zahan
Authenticity can be recognized by the Unique Samsara Inc trademark *)

Re: Poll: Do you enjoy PvP

Posted: Fri May 26, 2006 10:39 am
by grimjim
archaeos wrote:Is this what u define under fun ...Sitting down with a big bag of popcorn on the front seats watching the Firework from the OP battles with a bottle of firewine in the other hand at the Illuminati or Theseos-Bar big screen ,with some of my guildies dancing next to u and another sitting on your lap when Kyerna is to her Pyroware-evening ...U got taste ....
(If anyone wonders why their guild always need so many dappers ....Gambling and girls of course ....But please don't tell Kos ...she isn't aware of it*bets can be placed at Jyudas ...Inscriptionbulletins u can retrieve at Zahan *)
*looks around for Kyerna*
I'm sure I don't know what you're talking about!

*whispers* Lapdancing eh?

Re: Poll: Do you enjoy PvP

Posted: Fri May 26, 2006 10:42 am
by archaeos
grimjim wrote:*looks around for Kyerna*
I'm sure I don't know what you're talking about!

*whispers* Lapdancing eh?
Yeah and for our loyal customers we launched the Golden customer card....but as usual u will be the only one getting 50 percent...Don't tell anyone eh .
*whispers something in Jyudas ear with a naughty grin and watches his eyes pop hearing a satisfied mumble:Special offer, Auriane AND Salinier huh*

Re: Poll: Do you enjoy PvP

Posted: Fri May 26, 2006 10:59 am
by grimjim
archaeos wrote:Yeah and for our loyal customers we launched the Golden customer card....but as usual u will be the only one getting 50 percent...Don't tell anyone eh .
*whispers something in Jyudas ear with a naughty grin and watches his eyes pop hearing a satisfied mumble:Special offer, Auriane AND Salinier huh*
Never one to pass up a free gift or a two for one offer! Saves precious dapper.

Re: Poll: Do you enjoy PvP

Posted: Fri May 26, 2006 12:01 pm
by elijstar
iwojimmy wrote:I am not going to vote in this poll, because i dont agree with the options given.. kind of like the factions actually :D

I enjoy Player vs Player... in Desert Combat, counterstrike, natural Selection, Unreal Tournament.. games specially built for that, with no ambiguities over what is a legitimate target or fair fight, no ganking of lowbies (although base-camping still is an issue)

I dont enjoy Player vs Player in a persistant world which we were supposed to be rebuilding - not tearing apart, where i am placed in the position of being a bully and murdering people incapable of defending themselves, then being killed while I am trying to do something else, in an escalating cycle of revenge killings... where a fair fight is so rare it gets massive raves in the forums... and still offends people..
You take it personally? That's a big mistake. If you reallly believe it's personal then of course it's not enjoyable, that's just torturing yourself. It's not really bullying unless that's your real motivation, it's a game. If it gets to the forums all you have to do is not respond. Seems a bit thin-skinned to me. I have boundaries. You have to have a sense of humor about it. When I read a post from someone crying that they got ganked here or there and why it was a pain and how cruel and bad it was or whatever, it makes me giggle because it's such a waste of energy.

In fact, I apologize in advance for killing all of you in the future. You can rest assured that I have always lost pvp more than I've won, and I'm the first guy who will have a good laugh about being beaten under any circumstances. With any other attitude, one simply can't have fun with pvp. If I'm in an open pvp area then it's my decision and I simply can't complain if I get mobbed or ganked. Sure it can get annoying but what you do is just go do something else for a while, or call your friends out to retaliate. Whining is not a dignified option imho.

The same applies to everyone. If I'm in the mood for pvp and I'm roaming around looking for people to kill in such an area, anyone I find is fair game. I don't care if they're level 1, although I'm not likely to attack someone that low unless they attack me first. In those cases it's funny on both sides almost always.

My only actual peeve about PvP is players who don't have the dignity to win or lose with grace, and/or aren't mature enough to talk about the techniques and tactics employed in fights. I will tell anyone who wants to hear exactly how to beat my characters as far as I know. I expect the same respect from my opponents. If you don't have the mustard to be able to do that then you'll probably end up on my ignore list pretty fast. The only, ONLY way to really learn how to pvp is to duel anyway, and when I find people have so much ego and pride invested in their silly little digital dollies that they can't win or lose with grace, I pity them frankly. It's certainly got nothing to do with me as a person that's for sure.

There is NOTHING as exciting as fighting a real human. It's great, and the bonus is that a Video Game is a totally safe and controlled environment.

That having been said, it's a fact that some people simply aren't made to play pvp. The pace, the stress, the confusion, or whatever it may be just overwhelms them. *shrug* It's the same as any human activity that way. One size doesn't fit all.

Regards,
Ax

Re: Poll: Do you enjoy PvP

Posted: Fri May 26, 2006 12:09 pm
by sprite
elijstar wrote:In fact, I apologize in advance for killing all of you in the future. You can rest assured that I have always lost pvp more than I've won, and I'm the first guy who will have a good laugh about being beaten under any circumstances. With any other attitude, one simply can't have fun with pvp. If I'm in an open pvp area then it's my decision and I simply can't complain if I get mobbed or ganked. Sure it can get annoying but what you do is just go do something else for a while, or call your friends out to retaliate. Whining is not a dignified option imho.
I sincerely hope you go Kami so the Kara will have another decent honourable opponent :D

Re: Poll: Do you enjoy PvP

Posted: Fri May 26, 2006 12:11 pm
by dakhound
sprite wrote:I sincerely hope you go Kami so the Kara will have another decent honourable opponent :D
why who's this decent honourable person on our side lol