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kyesmith wrote:well at least this way the battle will be a true Guild vrs Guild, the way OP battles should be, with everyone protecting their own OPs AP and PF can fight, and i wish them all the best...

Your opinion, there is a split between the opinions of the players that OPs should be GvG or FvF. We didnt invent or design the game, let the devs decide and deal with it. Every game I've ever played has been the same, if you can bring friends, then bring them. I've done PvP training with 10 vs 10 before.....boooooring. Nothing like seeing 150+ blue and red and white dots on your radar and not being able to see because of the spell flash.

Again I say, lets have fun.

H

Oh yeah, and when OPs were still in development, I think I remember a phrase 'random attacks by the NPC's'....but then again, I have the mentality of a 10 year old(sorry, had to do that).

H

*sighs* Dazman I agree with you mostly ....im not going to throw in any quotes here but I see the same exact thing said over and over and over by pro PvPrs ... Im tired of seeing the same response nomatter what the person has said ..Try something new ..maybe come to some kind of understanding instead of only wanting your way to be right ... And before you say "oh but you don't" bla bla bla ...I'll try harder aswell but,Ican't come to an understanding with people that can't alter there views at all.

I still think the counter with multi declarations was the wrong response.
Maybe ppl who are here and havn't taken a break can't see it but the overall feel of the comunity HAS changed ...Even my mom who plays(lol) says it has and I never thought id hear her say that ..She likes this game more then me ...and yet now she is even mentioned leaving O.O ...

Before anyone says I left cus my OP was taken if we do lose.Starting at the end of the battle im on temp leave of the game.I'll be making a bit of a story line behind it on the saga forums ..after its all over (as the story will be a bit dif depending on wether we win/lose).This is based on 2 things

1- the change in the game and comunity ...need sometime to adjust ..and decide if i want to play anymore

and 2.RL

For any of my post or this one that seem to be flaming there not meant to and sorry for any missunderstanding

(Deleted by me cause i cant stand anymore crybaby crap that tries to bend everyone to their way of thinking. I'm FREAKING done, show up, play the game, or dont, your damn choice)

A grown Up Heavyn

dbritt wrote:(Deleted by me cause i cant stand anymore crybaby crap that tries to bend everyone to their way of thinking. I'm FREAKING done, show up, play the game, or dont, your damn choice)

A grown Up Heavyn

If that happened to be aimed at me then you need to read a little more ...I'm not trying to BEND anyone to my way of thinking..I CLEARLY stated that we all "Including myself" need to come to an understanding instead of only wanting it one way ...TBH PvP should not take top pos. because it was not here first..

so I surely hope that was not aimed at me ...because if so you proved my point about the comunity 100% ...

P.S. even after all this id still kill someone for killing you AFK in nexus if i had it to do over ...Because thats just the way I am

dbritt wrote:Oh yeah, and when OPs were still in development, I think I remember a phrase 'random attacks by the NPC's'....but then again, I have the mentality of a 10 year old(sorry, had to do that).

H

well.. was or wasnt.. they should implement it

also, q250 OP should cost 25mil (or higher) per RL week.

q200... 20mil, q150 5mil, q100, 750k, q50 is free

.. or whatever the upkeep would be, but it _should_ make q200/250 outpost owner cry

It wasnt aimed at you personally, but the last three threads of this.

*sighs* Dazman I agree with you mostly ....im not going to throw in any quotes here but I see the same exact thing said over and over and over by pro PvPrs ... Im tired of seeing the same response nomatter what the person has said ..Try something new ..maybe come to some kind of understanding instead of only wanting your way to be right ... And before you say "oh but you don't" bla bla bla ...I'll try harder aswell but,Ican't come to an understanding with people that CAN'T ALTER THEIR VIEWS AT ALL.

This is what i've been saying....they are your views, and I feel, as do others that have quite posting here, that we are trying to be converted to your way of thinking....it is your game, it is my game. Dont play my game, obviously you wont like it, play your own. But don't try to push your views down everyone elses gullet with one or two other people posting and posting and posting about the same thing...you have stated your view, as have I....stop, as will I.

H....again and done

(regular upkeep charges of OPs would be a good thing, I agree)

dbritt wrote:(Deleted by me cause i cant stand anymore crybaby crap that tries to bend everyone to their way of thinking. I'm FREAKING done, show up, play the game, or dont, your damn choice)

A grown Up Heavyn

Hmm, shame when words are tried it gets a response like this. Sadly there isn't a "dont kill me" button on all the recent PvP Only content.

Sorry Heavyn, but thats the way it is. People are unhappy. PvPers can express their unhappiness by tracking down the perpetrator and nuking them. Non-PvPers have only words in this dispute.

If you dont like the thread, dont post?

aardnebb wrote:Hmm, shame when words are tried it gets a response like this. Sadly there isn't a "dont kill me" button on all the recent PvP Only content.

Sorry Heavyn, but thats the way it is. People are unhappy. PvPers can express their unhappiness by tracking down the perpetrator and nuking them. Non-PvPers have only words in this dispute.

If you dont like the thread, dont post?

ditto, if you dont like PvP, don't participate?

dbritt wrote:Oh yeah, and when OPs were still in development, I think I remember a phrase 'random attacks by the NPC's'....but then again, I have the mentality of a 10 year old(sorry, had to do that).

H

No, you just enjoy taking comments out of context. Very different no? You're pulling my comment into a generalisation, one I did not make myself - read my post again, it's there and it's unedited. Please don't pick comments that are squarely aimed and try to generalise what I said. If you're going to do that, at least find a point where I was vague. Evidence of the '10 year old mentality' can be easily found, if you're willing to accept it.

I'm sorry you feel that way about my comments - I feel that both you and Rushin understand fully what I was trying to say, but I cannot understand why you both tried to pull my post in the wrong direction - only the fact that I mentioned PvP, and that got your backs up. Well, if that's the case, you just proved several of my 'mild' points. And it wouldn't be the first time someone did that by replying to my PvP comments. There was no need to pull yourselves into those comments - or was there?

I think it's great that you're helping new players ingame - I think it's a crying shame that these forums now contain so few constructive posts. I also think the comment "we help people in game" has little connection to my own comment of "this community has lost a lot of it's great players". I suppose you'll turn that around, so I'm saying the people left are no good? Yes, that's obviously what I meant all along - and it makes so much sense to post it here. Not. My point was that the gaping hole otherwise known as these forums used to be a vibrant, vocal place with ideas and discussions floating around all over the place. That was before the after effects of PvP. Or am I wrong? I guess that depends on your point of view.

Bah, I should just take your advice. Once again, I've said too much. I'm sorry to have upset anyone, and you can rest assured it won't happen again. Take care, have fun on Atys, and be well. I sincerely hope R2 is everything it deserves to be, and more.