Assault on Whirling Stronghold in Loria for the Good of Homins and the Glory of Jena

[Lukati]

Such a shame, such a waste to see a supposed Tryker federal guild almost immediatly break the oath it has made in front of the Tryker government officials. No freedom, no equality, no sharing (taking away by force or threat isn’ t sharing no matter how you twist and turn it). Now the woodchip will be tainted red by the blood drawn by their own brothers and sisters; a squable over materials where Aedan Artisans assumes they will only end up in Kamist hands, where they assume they are not being shared, under the pretext of religious motives for which they drag in the H.O.P.E. Alliance (Homin Order for Peaceful Existence), formed as a defensive alliance dedicated to promoting the survival and progress of homins.

But wait, according to the Charter, aren’ t they supposed to be a neutral Alliance for the benefit and freedom of hominkind? To ensure all homins are entitled to fee will, self-preservation, without becoming subject to any alien masters or creeds? Don’ t they seek to become a beacon of reason, calling for peace between homins, Karavan and Kamis, a forum for diplomacy not violence, a haven to the weak? Don’ t they say peace must be given a chance to prevail, while there is still HOPE?




Now that dragged kicking and screaming doesn’ t sound to much like free will, does it? But it’ s all in the name of faith of course. What a relief! For a moment I thought all of the previous and the following would have to be amended as well at the cost of one’ s ideals as a Tryker federal guild and the integrity of one’ s Alliance Charter..





I sincerely hope Aedan Artisans can live with the fact they will be looked down on and be labeled as untrustworthy by many true Tryker federal guilds and guilds of different nationality. I hope they can live with the fact they renounced their Tryker ideals for material gain under the pretext of faith. That they broke their own Charter of their own Alliance and thus betrayed it’ s integrity. That they made enemies at home amongst former friends or caused people hold a grudge against them by turning on their own blood. I hope they can bear the burden of causing what could lead to a civil war in the Lakelands.

All of this due to assumptions, propaganda and lies.
I know Kenshiro would have reached out for your hand should you have slipped from the cliff, but you bit it like a rabid dog.

Very true Pero, there will be no peace.
But the blood on your hands doesn’ t wash off as easily if it is your own kin’ s.

But that could be easily solved; I heard they were ‘short’ of loyal citizens in the Matis Kingdom, they were only charging half for former Trykers. Besides, the climate might be more to your liking out there.


/OOC:

I can understand AA would want an OP for themselves, but you might want to try to solve this diplomatically like your HOPE Charter describes instead of going in against it, ticking of people that more then likely would have happily traded with you, and trash your guild’ s image.

Well said boss!

At this point in time, while our nations still struggle against an ever-present threat of the kitin, AA seems to think acquiring materials for their 'higher power' takes precedence. Cast down your blatant self-indulgence, and at least think about valuing your own kin over some petty strangers.

[ayurveda]

tststss
I always knew, somewhere deep in my heart, that we can't really trust Tryker people
Trykers are the best for many things, but def not for politics. Everything becomes more complex ^^

That's why I left the Lakes to follow the Matis path. Things are more simple with Matis people

(edit: and yea, well said Kyerna ^^)

[lathan]

Also, let me just say that not all of HOPE has answered AA's call, because this is outside the mandate of the charter, and in fact in breach of several of the by-laws imho.

[danolt]

Http://ryzom.com/forum/showthread.php?t=19325

It is very easy to look down from an outpost wall and criticize a guild on its behavior.

At the end of the day, no one will be hurt. Homins will respawn or heal. It is nothing more then a contest of skill. We are opposing teams. We each choose a side. That is all. A contest.

Pero

[vguerin]

He wasn't the one attacking the outpost though

Komissar
Officer and bard of OotN

Which side are you on, because your personal alligiances are much more in doubt than AA's are in wanting to remove a Kami guild from an Outpost. If you are playing OOC, you should let folks know because your out of line with your guild stance.

You should make it clear whether you are talking for yourself or your guild as you sig shows you to be an officer of a Karavan guild. There is no problem here, Karavaneers will meet this threat in support of their allies just as Infinity has. And afterwards the Stinga rum will be shared by all for defending their faction.

There is much good RP mixed in with the other mixed messages... make sure that folks know what you are talking about and for whom you speak. You have allies looking at you in wonder right now.

BoH has some good folks, as does AA... one serves each faction so we all support our side. It's fun and with Infinity there we are sure to at least be entertained by shirtless homins Hawks took some good RP wrong from what I am reading... Riv's demands were in character if you've read his posts in the past... I guess BoH don't get it and are going for sympathy... They are good folks and need none, they just got to show up and it appears they will.

Any guild siding with BoH should be considered enemy of all Karavaneers and must consider this... I know the Karavan guilds will be, lack of loyalty is hard to swallow.

IT'S A GAME... a game where the Trykers will remain confused, let's take the ones that chose a side under our wings and have fun. Until they can loot our bodies, it's all fun...

The neutrals are the true threat... Many we are unable to be countered as some of them use game mechanics to exploit the attack phase. Neither faction can do a thing because the CSR team has not made a stand and the dev's have not programed a way to give others a sporting chance.

[iwojimmy]

Much as I respect Riveit and distrust the Kami, my repect for Kenshiro is greater. I will not participate in this conflict.
Does advantage mean more than balance ? Is it more important to crush and huniliate your opponents, or the challenge and glory of a fair fight against an equal enemy? There does not seem to be any answer - or even any consideration about it - in the world we are being forced to live in.
Perhaps the favours and benefits the Kami followers are receiving now can be rationalised as Ma-Duks influence, with Jena (possibly) redressing the balance once she arrives, although it is hard to imagine how.

[davrick]

I like and respect Kenshiro, and "The Band of Hawks", and would have probably steered clear of this conflict, if not for the inflammatory postings from Lillaryn and "Infinity". She so eloquently states "Infinity will be there to keep OP's from the Karavan scum". Wanderlust must now line up with karavan attackers in this battle, as should all other good karavan supporters.

[vguerin]

I like and respect Kenshiro, and "The Band of Hawks", and would have probably steered clear of this conflict, if not for the inflammatory postings from Lillaryn and "Infinity". She so eloquently states Infinity will be there to keep OP's form the Karavan scum. Wanderlust must now line up with karavan attackers in this battle, as should all other good karavan supporters.

Exactly ! Siding with your faction to take part in the game does not make the opponent bad. BoH was a good and respected enemy during EP2... and will be so again when they defend their outpost. Lill was totally IC and managed to spell more big words than I expected from a Kami scum. If your not having fun in all this it's not because of the game.

[petej]

Well since they're going to amend the H.O.P.E Charter to show they're following Karavan...they probably can throw it out for now...x.X;

Why bother having a charter at all if you can just up n change it whenever the fancy (of someone else OP in this case) takes you ?

[brithlem]

Lill was totally IC and managed to spell more big words than I expected from a Kami scum. If your not having fun in all this it's not because of the game.

we talking quasi-soap scum? just a mild film... perhaps a residue? I just need specifics before I author a reply...

Appreciative,